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1 hour ago, Numbnuts said:

Might be wrong but think it depended on what vac type it was.

This is correct - 15 minute wait was recommended after Pfizer and Moderna.   This has been suspended, mainly because observed anaphylaxis has been very low, ie, no worse than the other brands.

 

https://www.gov.im/categories/health-and-wellbeing/vaccinations/covid-19-vaccination-programme/waiting-after-your-covid-19-vaccination/

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48 minutes ago, Gladys said:

As I said, when I had my vaxes, I was never asked to stay for 15 mins, just not drive.  Others may have, but it was "off you go  but don't drive".  Perhaps there were people who needed to be sat and observed, particularly in the early roll out. 

 

I witnessed someone who decided to not wait for the 15 mins trying to walk straight out and being chased and strictly bought to heel by one of the observers ( a nurse I think) overseeing the post vaccination quarter of an hour wind down time. This was at an Astra  Zeneca session 

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I see that Ashford is now jumping on the access to buses for anybody with additional needs . Something I'm pretty sure is being looked at already with a consultation on it to include mobility scooters etc. Must be feeling the need to keep in the limelight . Surprised he has time as would have though he would have been to busy preparing his point by point rebuttal times two. 

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1 hour ago, Numbnuts said:

I see that Ashford is now jumping on the access to buses for anybody with additional needs . Something I'm pretty sure is being looked at already with a consultation on it to include mobility scooters etc. Must be feeling the need to keep in the limelight . Surprised he has time as would have though he would have been to busy preparing his point by point rebuttal times two. 

Yes seems so

Just my view, but I can't see mobility scooters being allowed on buses. Its crazy. What a massive hazard to all the other users. Its a difficult one I know, but sometimes things are just not possible.

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29 minutes ago, Happier diner said:

Yes seems so

Just my view, but I can't see mobility scooters being allowed on buses. Its crazy. What a massive hazard to all the other users. Its a difficult one I know, but sometimes things are just not possible.

It’s possible, if there are buses wide enough and big enough to cater for every disablity and every special interest group on the island. It would cost the taxpayers a fortune and after a few years, an MHK would pipe up they aren’t up to standards so will need replacing. Sadly life isn’t always fair. 

 

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2 hours ago, Numbnuts said:

I see that Ashford is now jumping on the access to buses for anybody with additional needs . Something I'm pretty sure is being looked at already with a consultation on it to include mobility scooters etc. Must be feeling the need to keep in the limelight . Surprised he has time as would have though he would have been to busy preparing his point by point rebuttal times two. 

His confidence will have been bolstered by Allinson heaping praise on, "The last two Treasury Ministers" for their "financial prudence and good judgement" in post...(IoM Courier).

 

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51 minutes ago, Dirty Buggane said:

There are buses with no major adaption, just rejigging of seating for multi use standard/wheelchair/prams. Just not sold by Mercedes  

That's not a big help as we haven't got any. Never seen on anywhere either. Never seen a bus in the UK or abroad that could take a mobility scooter. 

I am not against them they would be great. 

And what about all the bus stops that need to be modified. 

I just heard old Eric on the moaning line. I agree that bus stops should be modified and maybe altered buses should be ordered. But it isn't going to happen overnight is it?

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8 minutes ago, Happier diner said:

That's not a big help as we haven't got any. Never seen on anywhere either. Never seen a bus in the UK or abroad that could take a mobility scooter. 

Cornwall's busses, Stagecoach, busses in Switzerland.

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23 minutes ago, Kopek said:

You want him to take photos of disabled people on buses?? What would that look like???

Ha Ha. Not the people. The buses.

Further research tells me

The bus ramps cannot accommodate wheelchairs/scooters larger than 76 cm (30 inches) and longer than 127 cm (50 inches).

that's a micro scooter!

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42 minutes ago, Happier diner said:

I have never seen a mobility scooter on a bus in Cornwall. Have you any photos. I was there last month. The buses were shit. 

Well, you could always use Google, you'll find that many bus companies take mobility scooters. My local bus operation is great btw.

Conditions of Carriage - Go Cornwall Bus

"The majority of our buses and coaches are already able to accommodate wheelchairs, approved mobility scooters, prams and buggies. Whilst we welcome these onboard for travel, it is at the discretion of the driver as to whether or not there is enough space available. "

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7 minutes ago, GD4ELI said:

Well, you could always use Google, you'll find that many bus companies take mobility scooters. My local bus operation is great btw.

Conditions of Carriage - Go Cornwall Bus

"The majority of our buses and coaches are already able to accommodate wheelchairs, approved mobility scooters, prams and buggies. Whilst we welcome these onboard for travel, it is at the discretion of the driver as to whether or not there is enough space available. "

Yes. But you could use Google too and work out that there are not many scooters less than 50" long. 

So Cornwall attempt is to say you can use a mobile scooter so long as its not as big as a mobility scooter. 

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