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What DfE actually needs is a Minister with some intellect, with some experience of the private sector and wealth generation and the ability to listen to everyone else but themselves first. The list of candidates is very short and Ashford would not be on it. 

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5 hours ago, Roxanne said:

What about Mrs Christian? Would she fit the bill? 

She’s too clever. What the DfE is really looking for is an idiot. They don’t really want anyone who might be able to find the lack of talent in the DfE management chain out. 

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On 7/21/2022 at 10:43 AM, Roxanne said:

What about Mrs Christian? Would she fit the bill? 

I don’t know much about her. Maybe. It’s worth trying someone new, rather than dragging out old failures. 

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Ashford only listens to one person, the voices in his head

Oh your doing great David. Winston would of been proud of you. It is a shame you were not able to share your wisdom and foresight with him. He would of been PM longer.

Sorry not a fan

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10 hours ago, Numbnuts said:

I actually like Claire Christian. Early days for sure but she seems to be aware of issues and prepared to act on them. Would listen to her before most of the others and definitely before Ashford . 


Excellent contribution by CC on MR Perspective prog this lunchtime

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I have seen everything now, and it’s either hilarious or you end up pulling your hair out. Mr Squeaker has been on the NPM this afternoon complaining the new Ministers need training, to be a Minister and culture. He argues, that IOMG shouldn’t be afraid to spend money, to give politicos the tools to do the job. 
 

Well Mr Squeaker got some of the statement right, the politicos are certainly tools. Seriously has it come to this, Charlie Kerruish, Clare Christian and Donald Gelling didn’t need training, neither did Sir Miles Walker, yet Ashford has fucked things up and through his actions, this island is spending money, it can I’ll afford to train MHKs to be a Minister. 

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7 minutes ago, Holte End said:

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/more-training-needed-for-ministers-says-hok-speaker/

I think they should be on a student grant, which should be eligible to be paid back from future earnings.

Will they be trained in being able to stand up to civil servants, and how not to let other public servants, take you out, encourage you to drink and then put you on the bus, where you promptly throw up!

You couldn’t make this up.

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1 minute ago, Shake me up Judy said:

Another stupid idea. They should work on attracting decent candidates in the first place, not training numpties once they get there. I doubt that's what they really want though.

Who...Joe Public? Cos Joe Public elects them.

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1 hour ago, 2112 said:

I have seen everything now, and it’s either hilarious or you end up pulling your hair out. Mr Squeaker has been on the NPM this afternoon complaining the new Ministers need training, to be a Minister and culture. He argues, that IOMG shouldn’t be afraid to spend money, to give politicos the tools to do the job. 
 

Well Mr Squeaker got some of the statement right, the politicos are certainly tools. Seriously has it come to this, Charlie Kerruish, Clare Christian and Donald Gelling didn’t need training, neither did Sir Miles Walker, yet Ashford has fucked things up and through his actions, this island is spending money, it can I’ll afford to train MHKs to be a Minister. 

I seen this and it is very worrying, it is like he owned up to the fact that none of them have a clue to what they are doing.

also how much an hour do people get before fully trained to do a job and why have they taken on such roles if unable to do the job.

utter madness 

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