Covid-19 vaccine injuries- breaking the silence and getting these people some help, over 1000 reported on Island. Support group avail

[GD4ELI]

1 minute ago, John Wright said:

I’m not ridiculing anything. I’m asking for information so as to gauge the extent of the problem here.

Of course, you’d expect a certain number of people who are vaccinated in a campaign to vaccinate 60 million people in UK, and 80,000 in Isle of Man, to have heart attacks, or die, within 28 days of being vaccinated. That’s the law of averages/coincidence when numbers are so large.

How many have been actually medically attributed to the vaccine, by doctors or a coroner?

Have you considered that it may not be being publicised because there is little or no connection and the number of cases is low.

The island has delivered 120,000 doses, approx. I’ve had 4. I’m due my 5th soon. I had a sore arm once for 24 hours. My partner, 3 doses, had flu like symptoms for 3 days after dose 2.

Either of us could have filed a yellow card report.

A friend of mine who had already suffered with COVID in an initial outbreak was poorly for a few days after her first and second jab, this was an expected reaction. I had a sore shoulder for a few weeks after my Pfizer booster, big deal.

[kevster]

30 minutes ago, ManxMum said:

It seems UK MP Sir Christopher Chope has been raising this issue in parliament with his ‘vaccines harms’ bill - article excerpt above. Is it possible these injuries are in fact widely known but the information is being suppressed?

Full article here: https://uncut.substack.com/p/betrayal-of-britain-mp-my-government

Or try this article

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Wibble.

[joebean]

The Covid response included a campaign to get the population vaccinated, which included the inference that if you did not, you were putting vulnerable people at risk. The amount of Government effort through the media in the UK and the IOM ( and in all developed countries) to push the vaccination message was immense. I went for my vaccines (2x AZ and 1 x Moderna) had no ill-effects, caught Omicron and hardly noticed it. So all good for me. However, to deny that this wasn’t the case for others and that a lot of people are not suffering serious issues due to vaccine adverse reactions is prejudicial and wrong. 
There is a need to examine these cases carefully and to provide necessary support. I suspect, however there will be a great deal of reluctance to do do or admit any liability, aided and abetted by some of the dismissive attitudes amongst the indoctrinated we see in this thread already. 

[ManxMum]

9 minutes ago, joebean said:

The Covid response included a campaign to get the population vaccinated, which included the inference that if you did not, you were putting vulnerable people at risk. The amount of Government effort through the media in the UK and the IOM ( and in all developed countries) to push the vaccination message was immense. I went for my vaccines (2x AZ and 1 x Moderna) had no ill-effects, caught Omicron and hardly noticed it. So all good for me. However, to deny that this wasn’t the case for others and that a lot of people are not suffering serious issues due to vaccine adverse reactions is prejudicial and wrong. 
There is a need to examine these cases carefully and to provide necessary support. I suspect, however there will be a great deal of reluctance to do do or admit any liability, aided and abetted by some of the dismissive attitudes amongst the indoctrinated we see in this thread already. 

Thank you for a coherent response.

Just a cursory look at this issue quickly shows it is real and serious. Of course there are going to be adverse reactions to any health program that involves widespread treatments. The rush to global vaccination was alarming to many but most of us simply went along with it, ‘for the greater good’ and all that. But we are now pushing these largely untested vaccines onto our kids, which is worrying. Ridicule is not helpful.

[Katman]

It's obviously being taken very seriously by the Manx public, as their Facebook Group has grown to five members, but no new members in the past week.

[Katman]

Duplicate post - sorry.

Edited May 20, 2022 by Katman

[The Chief]

Ambulance chasers are starting to circle, PPI claims are done and dusted so vaccine 'injuries' are the new hot lawsuit.

Reddit and other forums are full of the same type of questions by new accounts.

[ManxMum]

During the pandemic we were bombarded daily with figures for those who had died ‘within 28 days of a positive test’. Below are the UK Office for National Statistics figures for those who have died within 28 days of receiving a vaccine, ie; the same metric. The numbers are alarming:

 

[Bandits]

10 minutes ago, ManxMum said:

During the pandemic we were bombarded daily with figures for those who had died ‘within 28 days of a positive test’. Below are the UK Office for National Statistics figures for those who have died within 28 days of receiving a vaccine, ie; the same metric. The numbers are alarming:

 

Do you know how many people normally die over a 28 day or 60 day period that might be a good starting point rather than bullshit statistics. 100% of people die within 28 days of going to the toilet would be my guess. Or eating food. This literally is the biggest load of bullshit I’ve read in a while. 

[HeliX]

18 minutes ago, ManxMum said:

During the pandemic we were bombarded daily with figures for those who had died ‘within 28 days of a positive test’. Below are the UK Office for National Statistics figures for those who have died within 28 days of receiving a vaccine, ie; the same metric. The numbers are alarming:

 

Its not the same metric. You're comparing people who died within 28 days of catching covid (so a pre-requisite is catching covid, which filters out a significant part of the population) to people dying within 28 days of being vaccinated in a country with an almost total vaccination rate. 

Edit: Not to mention that the most vulnerable, i.e. the people who are most likely to die in the next 28 days from any cause, are also the people who've had the most vaccinations.

Edited May 20, 2022 by HeliX

[Ham_N_Eggs]

9 hours ago, maica1x said:

I created a facebook support group for the Isle of Man for those injured by these vaccines late last year when I realized how many adverse events were being reported worldwide, and I was told the Island had none by several people- the group is unfortunately growing everyday. I did several FOI requests to the UK for yellowcard data as the IOM gov didnt have any data collected when asked and it seems we in fact now have over 1000 reports up to April 2022, yet I hear nothing of this on the media or from our government. There are 124 directly injured members in the group who are sharing their experiences and seeking help. One of whom has recently passed away after having emailed one of our MHK's early on for support, and unfortunately didnt receive any. She was a case study for injury to this vaccine in Liverpool, as is another one in the group and some others have had their injuries validated by the doctors here. Many injuries are quite serious and definitely not short term - I am concerned as we are now vaccinating kids whose parents are unaware that anything serious is possible as a reaction (4 deaths now on island according to FOI and one from the group) and secondly that these people who 'did the right thing' are being dismissed, called anti-vaxxers, complainers and no one wants to hear what happened to them or help. With this kind of shocking response, many are too frightened and also too sick to speak out. No doctor knows how to treat their injuries due to the vaccine being so new, one even said 'we have exhausted all options'. We need to break the silence and start asking questions of our MHK's on injuries, in order to get them some recognition and medical/financial help. Some can no longer work, and struggle with daily tasks along with constant pain. 

Do you know there is a yellowcard reporting system for vaccine injuries?

Has anyone seen or been aware of the official Pfizer post marketing trial data released this March? Within first 3 months Dec-Feb 2021, 1223 deaths and 42000 adverse events 

Has anyone been told what symptoms to look out for? There's 9 pages of them in the recent Pfizer data release available online, and some prior to rollout in the official FDA slides presented (slide 16 I think)

Has anyone heard of serious injuries that have and are occurring on the Island from these vaccines?

Who is aware that these vaccines are still in trial ending 2023? 

Who is aware of school ambulance call-outs occurring?

Please do not respond with a comparison of vaccine injured to deaths of covid/long covid. All count and should be considered and given compassion, right? And if our government isn't collecting vaccine injury data or following it up or taking meetings to hear those injured or asking questions in Tynwald, we simply dont know where most risk lies and I think this needs urgent looking into, esp with vaccinating kids- I said as much in my emails to all MHK's and those MHK's I have met so far. 

For anyone needing support - the group link below

https://www.facebook.com/groups/iomcvi

Here's a recent documentary 'A Letter to my MP' where the Isle of Man group is included, we are linked to the UK CV Family group of injured across who organized and featured in this documentary. We are also linked to the global coalition of injury groups, in the hope of finding treatments and creating awareness. We are also networking with some UK medical teams and GP's who acknowledge vaccine injury and also long covid, to help. We are 2 volunteer mums running this groups and we need government to step up now.

https://brandnewtube.com/watch/uk-cv-family-a-letter-to-my-mp-v2_HhxneadubQ9x2J8.html?fbclid=IwAR1LjO26pUt8OMvBRfV289D35PSbtvReCrvyCBRD-eVVdCvKgMbOwI-njBU

I urge anyone who reads this, to email their MHK and ask many questions - find out what they know of vaccine injuries, ask for their documents and what they are doing to help them. I had a recent meeting with an MHK and the only reason he knew injuries were happening is because of my email about my FOI request, and support group. I am hopeful for questions being raised in Tynwald soon as a result, but I fear an immediate pause to investigate will not be actioned. The only question on vaccine injuries raised in Tynwald so far that I could find in the transcripts, was on the 15th April 2021 at the very start of vaccination, where indemnity was also discussed and no yellowcard data was collected to view. Not one question since. 

Thanks for reading. 

 

 

Well this is a useful distraction from the should-Ashford-resign-thread after the attempts to derail it failed. Probably just a coincidence......

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Imagine the Monkeypox vaccine fall  out....

[ManxMum]

1 minute ago, Ham_N_Eggs said:

Well this is a useful distraction from the should-Ashford-resign-thread after the attempts to derail it failed. Probably just a coincidence......

I will be clear about my own position/stance.

I am a busy working mother and professional - not a lawyer - with little interest in FB or forums. I got the 1st vax as it seemed the right thing to do but became uneasy at the ‘push’ and blatant propaganda around the whole covid issue and decided to take no more. I am now in the unenviable position of deciding what is best for my children.

Covid is now provenly only slightly more harmful than ‘flu yet government and their agencies have been ramming the vaccine programs ‘down our throats’ as though it is Ebola - one has to wonder why? The obvious answer is vested interests. Is that the same reason people on this forum are so quick to ridicule valid questions?

Rather than derail outrage about our contemptible ex-health minister I would very much like to see the back of him. If he could be followed by the remainder of most of his colleagues, and the bulk of their government puppet-masters, so much the better. A clean sweep of his corrupt lodge friends would be the iceing on the cake. Perhaps we might then finally have the freedom to flourish

[HeliX]

3 minutes ago, ManxMum said:

Covid is now provenly only slightly more harmful than ‘flu yet government and their agencies have been ramming the vaccine programs ‘down our throats’ as though it is Ebola - one has to wonder why? The obvious answer is vested interests. Is that the same reason people on this forum are so quick to ridicule valid questions?

Yeah you should see all the money Pfizer are giving me!!!

There are likely people who had bad reactions to the vaccine. It seems to be roughly the same people who would end up with long Covid. Describing it as "1000s of adverse events" on island when everyone knows 99% of that is people with the sniffles does nothing to help convince people.