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So there's no pollution producing the hardware i.e. the steel, electronics and transport and installation of the heating method, the method of producing the electricity and the hardware to do it and the transport to the site and the machines used building it and the short lifespan of the hardware, compared to say, my wood burner which is nearly 30 years old and still going strong?........just asking.

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Why this obsession with central heating? We don't even live in a cold country! Insulate your house and use small electric heaters. Get an old fashioned immersion heater. As for new builds, don't put central heating in and knock circa £20K off the price. 

It is not rocket science. 

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48 minutes ago, Cambon said:

Why this obsession with central heating? We don't even live in a cold country! Insulate your house and use small electric heaters. Get an old fashioned immersion heater. As for new builds, don't put central heating in and knock circa £20K off the price. 

It is not rocket science. 

There is a critical point where insulation becomes more expensive than heat. Yes you are right in theory. There are passive houses that need no heat at all but they take some building. The insulation is so good that the house is heated by the persons and appliances in them.

However the price of insulation rises exponentially, therefore there is a sweet spot where modest heat capacity twinned with the right level of insulation is the most economic?.

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3 hours ago, doc.fixit said:

So there's no pollution producing the hardware i.e. the steel, electronics and transport and installation of the heating method, the method of producing the electricity and the hardware to do it and the transport to the site and the machines used building it and the short lifespan of the hardware, compared to say, my wood burner which is nearly 30 years old and still going strong?........just asking.

You might be on borrowed time...

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1629751/log-burner-ban-wood-smoke-air-pollution-mums-for-lungs-defra

 

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2 hours ago, finlo said:

Sounds good in theory but our electrical infrastructure could nowhere near support them.


What electrical infrastructure improvements are required to support a move away from gas for home heating?

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Just now, SleepyJoe said:


What electrical infrastructure improvements are required to support a move away from gas for home heating?

At an (educated) guess 100% of the islands network, these things start at 12KW and go up to 30KW and beyond!

There are still plenty of places on the island where if one person switches on a heavy appliance all their neighbours lights dim!

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46 minutes ago, Happier diner said:

There is a critical point where insulation becomes more expensive than heat. Yes you are right in theory. There are passive houses that need no heat at all but they take some building. The insulation is so good that the house is heated by the persons and appliances in them.

However the price of insulation rises exponentially, therefore there is a sweet spot where modest heat capacity twinned with the right level of insulation is the most economic?.

As I said above, we don't live in a cold country. The house I live in is about 50 years old. It has never had central heating. I put insulation in the loft and had double glazing installed. The house is south facing with large windows. Even on the coldest of winter mornings it never gets below 12 degrees inside, usually a good bit warmer. Two electric radiators and the windows soon heat the whole house up to 18-20 at a cost of about 50P per hour. They are on for about 5 hours a day, when required. They are only needed from mid November to the end of March. My winter electric bills are about £150 more than my summer bills. So heating costs me about £300 a year. 

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None of that stops anyone from  installing one though, does it?

15 minutes ago, finlo said:

At an (educated) guess 100% of the islands network, these things start at 12KW and go up to 30KW and beyond!

There are still plenty of places on the island where if one person switches on a heavy appliance all their neighbours lights dim!

 

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Just now, Cambon said:

As I said above, we don't live in a cold country. The house I live in is about 50 years old. It has never had central heating. I put insulation in the loft and had double glazing installed. The house is south facing with large windows. Even on the coldest of winter days, it never gets below 12 degrees. Two electric radiators and the windows soon heat the whole house up to 18-20 at a cost of about 50P per hour. They are on for about 5 hours a day, when required. They are only needed from mid November to the end of March. My winter electric bills are about £150 more than my summer bills. So heating costs me about £300 a year. 

Yes I know a few people who have removed their central heating and just use electric radiators or heaters. Much cheaper and ecologically beneficial. 

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1 hour ago, Happier diner said:

I'm already on borrowed time at 75 so I don't care. There are many other things that should be altered in the world before a small group of 80,000 folk with no heavy industries and virtually no effect on the polluted world needs to take action.

Heavy industry, Putin and other war mongers, vehicles used for show, image or competition and wasteful feel good attempts to prove your green credentials are a few that come to mind.

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