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The Isle of Man is missing..........(give us your opinion)


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What is the Isle of Man missing?

Watched BBC news North West tonight presented atop the Villa Marina by Roger ( forget his surname)

Anyway this was all about the piece of wood, (the Queens baton) going round the Island, well at least the southern part,as something celebrating something.

Some young girl in Lycra part of the whole shebang said this was good because “ there is nothing to do on the Isle of Man”

Not quite sure she is right about that.

Hope she doesn’t work for the Tourist Board

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6 hours ago, jackwhite said:

Higher quality doesn't have to mean higher cost.

Just something a bit different done well rather than the plethora of identikit H&Bs or the typically Manx old mans bar. There is room for the latter certainly. A bit of creative thinking from those involved to bring something a bit different. 

No it doesn't have to mean that but probably will do.

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A lidl or an Aldi

Waitrose

We've got a cracking Japanese restaurant, which is fucking expensive but always fully booked. 

Now we need some similarly standard offerings from the following cuisines:

Korea 

Lebanon

Turkey

Argentina/Brazil steakhouse

Persian

We could also do with a proper Chinese hotpot restaurant and an Indian that doesn't just cater for rugby club pissheads.

 

 

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10 hours ago, germann said:

A lidl or an Aldi

Waitrose

We've got a cracking Japanese restaurant, which is fucking expensive but always fully booked. 

Now we need some similarly standard offerings from the following cuisines:

Korea 

Lebanon

Turkey

Argentina/Brazil steakhouse

Persian

We could also do with a proper Chinese hotpot restaurant and an Indian that doesn't just cater for rugby club pissheads.

 

 

Agree Aldi or Lidl. Prefer Booths over Waitrose.

Weve had good Turkish and Greek places but they’ve never survived.

Weve got a Brazilian place and Meating is great.

Theres a number of Indian places that don’t cater for pissheads.

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2 hours ago, HiVibes said:

Really what the island is missing is young people, not a fucking Aldi.

This!

Keep young people here or even better attract new ones here me the other things follow.

There are loads of youngsters on island into Numidia in all its forms, but they all go to uni and lots don’t come back.

All the other hobbies and pass times listed above are the same.  A good youth setup that lasts until kids are  18 then it does as they all leave leaving the organisation with a core membership of middle aged and elderly people who with the best will in the world don’t have the drive to move things forward. 
 

Those same young people give you the staff for your nice restaurants etc as well as being the clients of the future.

I don’t know how to fix it.  A proper uni would help that was a centre of excellence in certain areas as would more facilities but all would be a massive up front cost and huge losses for years before the island saw a return.

Personally I would be up for taking a gamble.  Throw a shed load of money at a state of the art uni specialising in four or five relatively diverse areas and accept that it will not see any return for decades.  Be radical and think long term for a change, capitalise on esports and other markets that are starting to develop and are going to be HUGE.

We won’t though.  We will slunk money on vanity projects and virtue signalling climate agendas while people continue to have the same discussion year after year about how there is no vision and drive to the place until nearly everyone left here is of retirement age.

Oh, and better government subsided transport links.  Same applies, short term pain for long term gain.  Giv people a reason to base themselves here with easy, regular and affordable hops to city’s to stop them going stir crazy.

The truth is there is very little if anything that will improve our quality of life short term that is actually going to be cost effective and profit making in the short term.

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On 6/16/2022 at 3:26 PM, The Bastard said:

What this place is missing : POPULATION

The IOM has none of the many desirable and fun things that are posted on this thread because it has the population of a market town in the UK, with lots of additional costly logistical and legal issues associated with setting up business here that make it uncompetitive against setting up in a market town there instead.

You won't get the fun stuff because there's not enough bums on seats - like a lot of enterprises on the IOM, anything new and novel that opens will see an initial surge of interest then a lack of business once the static limited population has tried it a couple of times. There currently isn't enough turnover of population through tourism to support experience-based businesses.

There's no gig scene because the few youngsters who aren't listening online are likely to leave the island at college time for better prospects, more affordable housing and better entertainment.

Meanwhile, the housing market is unaffordable, despite all the empty green space all over the island, and semi-abandoned golf courses in town space, because of a rose-tinted view of the island as a quaint Victorian picture postcard that must remain unchanged at all costs.

When the island had a tourist industry the number of visitors meant that, over the summer at least, there was enough critical mass to attract various forms of entertainments.

Now that the tourist industry has gone south, literally, all that's essentially left is nostalgia for those days that ain't coming back anytime soon...

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On 6/15/2022 at 6:42 PM, Roxanne said:

Me too. That's why I asked. There used to be gigs on all over the place until about 2005 (approx). 

Coincidentally, that's when I stopped playing gigs, so it's probably my fault. Sorry.

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What this Island needs is more things to do.

There's nothing to do.

Like fishing for example. I know there is Port St Mary, Port Erin, Peel, Ramsey, Douglas harbours and countless rocks and beaches and fishing clubs to join. But there is nothing to do on the Isle of Man.

There's no sport. I know there is a well organized and established all-Island football league, netball, hockey and stuff but we need more than that. Somewhere to play 5 aside. I know there is the NSC but that is used more for basketball, and table tennis, judo, karate stuff, and there is even an indoor bowling green there. ETA: and squash courts too. I got into squash when I was in my 30s, not sure if that is late or not, but what an absolute HIGH that game is. I loved it. I wasn't ever good at it, certainly not at the start, even from playing folk far better than me - they enjoyed the game as much as I did. Squash courts on the Isle of Man. Good ol' NSC.

Swimming. Too bloody cold in the winter, although there are people that still take a dip. Yes, I know there are swimming pools at Castletown and Peel. And Ramsey and even Douglas. But we need more. Don't we?

I like a bit of music. My lot are into their brass bands. There's only about 7 or 8 on the Island who provide free tuition and instruments but there needs to be more music. I realise there is guitarry type stuff including electric, and folk music all over the place. There's even bell-ringing. But we need more than that don't we?.

I like my motorbikes. There are a few clubs that are always welcoming to newcomers including young people but I am only joining them if they come to my door and ask me to join.

You can't beat a good walk can you. The Isle of Man is covered in these bloody roads and so there is nowhere to walk. Apart from the glens and that, and the hills. And the woods and forests. ETA and the beaches.

The trouble with the Isle of Man, is there is nothing to do.

Good internet connection though. 

The Isle of Man has an abundance of whinging moaners but essentially the Isle of Man is missing nothing. 

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11 hours ago, AOR said:

The Isle of Man has an abundance of whinging moaners but essentially the Isle of Man is missing nothing. 

+1

Look at Skye. What have they got that's different to us which makes them such a draw for tens of thousands if not more tourists each year?

Similarities: heritage sites, kayak/SUP, wildlife trips, amazing walking, stunning scenery, small number of good restaurants, awful roads, unpredictable weather (probably worse than ours), not many opportunities for young people 

Differences: they do have a Michelin Star restaurant, lower population and probably older on average, whisky distillery. We have heritage rail, and our midge is nowhere near as bad!

Probably missed a few off my list.

Having been there though, it does remind me of here. That's what we need to aspire to if we want to attract tourism. We are never going to appeal to younger people other than for finance, egaming etc. For a lot of our young, they have to leave to go into their chosen career because the jobs don't and never will exist here. Same applies to the Scottish Islands.

Conclusion, there is loads to do. We just don't market ourselves well, or look at how others succeed with a similar offering. Be careful what you wish for though, as in the summer, Skye is heaving and not a particularly nice place to be - go just before summer season. The locals are getting restless and want their quiet island back.

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