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3 minutes ago, jackwhite said:

Do you actually know anything about this or are you just giving us your opinion based on these tweets? Have you read the previous comments by her or seen it covered in the news or anything similar?

She absolutely does have an agenda and doesn't recognise transgender or their right to their own identity. Even if that is the case, it's fine. She doesn't have to use Twitter or her fame to further that agenda.

No she makes very some valid points in relation to how the movement is affecting women's rights that’s all. A huge amount of it is blown up out of all proportion by silly online idiots. 

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4 minutes ago, hissingsid said:

Katie Price for instance she is a star according to the gutter press, Daily Wail, I don’t remember her having a career in anything but her every move is monitored and reported on .  

That is her career. Generating stories about her life for money and leveraging that into other commerical realms is her talent. Sadly. 

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2 minutes ago, offshoremanxman said:

No she makes very some valid points in relation to how the movement is affecting women's rights that’s all. A huge amount of it is blown up out of all proportion by silly online idiots. 

So you don't actually know the full story if you think that's all it is. Just so we all understand the context of your 'argument'.

We also don't have to as your opinion is usually similarly polar opposite to any person capable of empathy.

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44 minutes ago, offshoremanxman said:

No she makes very some valid points in relation to how the movement is affecting women's rights that’s all. A huge amount of it is blown up out of all proportion by silly online idiots. 

Exactly.  I don't believe she is anti-trans in any way.  She is anti the militant hysteria that seems to follow this whole thing unfortunately.  Good for her too.  Women's rights have been defined for millennia by men.  Now they are gaining a level of parity and self determination, but these newfound rights and equalities are being sabotaged or unfairly utilized by men again, but this time they are wearing dresses and are calling themselves Susan. 

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4 minutes ago, The Phantom said:

Exactly.  I don't believe she is anti-trans in any way.  She is anti the militant hysteria that seems to follow this whole thing unfortunately.  Good for her too.  Women's rights have been defined for millennia by men.  Now they are gaining a level of parity and self determination, but these newfound rights and equalities are being sabotaged or unfairly utilized by men again, but this time they are wearing dresses and are calling themselves Susan. 

Not entirely sure this is the case. I'm aware of the whole thing and have actually just re-read her long form post on it. 

She puts it down to safeguarding in the main (there are other reasons) and the like and if that's her take on it then that's understandable. She also points to her awful sounding first marriage and that's an awful thing to have to go through.

Two things about her views don't sit comfortably with me though:

 

1. That ultimately to be considered a woman you must 'menstruate'.

2. The deleting of the supportive tweet about Stephen King following him praising the trans community.

 

Appreciate this is a complex issue and there is actually much debate in a thread about the ultimate discussion point over there where it may be better served to take it if it gets deeper.

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2 hours ago, thommo2010 said:

Ok so what is GFERXPOMDGETYQQQ+, PXXcTQQSD and a thirder? once I know these things I may able to give an opinion


According to Urban Dictionary a thirder is someone from a third world country

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19 minutes ago, jackwhite said:

1. That ultimately to be considered a woman you must 'menstruate'.

She didn’t actually say that at all. What she said was actually twisted by idiots.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/jk-rowling-tweet-women-menstruate-people-transphobia-twitter-a9552866.html

She also added:

“I respect every trans person’s right to live any way that feels authentic and comfortable to them. I’d march with you if you were discriminated against on the basis of being trans. At the same time, my life has been shaped by being female. I do not believe it’s hateful to say so”

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