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4 hours ago, Roger Mexico said:

Oh for heaven's sake!  It's one day at a time when a lot of parents and kids will be off anyway.  Even 22 December for last day seems late to me and expecting  families going off-Island to spend Christmas with relatives to have cram their travel into Christmas Eve is mad.  And if you're trying to get to Whistler or the Caribbean, even travelling on 23rd is unlikely.

I normally go in January tbh.

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15 hours ago, Passing Time said:

Did you read the story or just get instantly outraged?

I always read the story, and I am not outraged. The point I was making was that DESC clearly haven't considered the impact of this on parents who aren't able to go away, may be single parents, working parents - that have already booked any time off (if they were able to) and now they have the added challenge or having to organise childcare. 

In reality, this only benefits teachers and school staff. Anyone who is fortunate enough to be able to go away for Christmas will have already booked their travel a long time ago, will they not? In balance, it's not a particularly well thought through decision.

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32 minutes ago, Roxanne said:

You're right. Not only that but the schools have a history of zero tolerance about parents taking children out of school, even for a day, citing that every day in education is important. As a PR exercise, they've shot themselves in the foot with this decision. They could argue, and they'd be right, that little happens on that day that's of any deep educational value but they have also set a precedent for the future and it may be a precedent that they come to regret.

They seem to have become a bit more flexible on this after covid.  Quite a few people I know have taken kids out of (Primary) school for an extra few days here and there.  I recall one parent friend did tell me they got given some work to take and they had to promise to do some educational trips whilst away and there kid would do a mini project on it or something.  It's usually been to visit relatives or go 'home' after not doing so for years.  Whether it will continue, is the same at Secondary school or because it is solely due to covid I'm not sure. 

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1 hour ago, Manx Bean said:

In reality, this only benefits teachers and school staff. Anyone who is fortunate enough to be able to go away for Christmas will have already booked their travel a long time ago, will they not? In balance, it's not a particularly well thought through decision.

To quote Oscar Wilde "We obviously move in different circles".  Do you really think the the only people who travel for Christmas are the ultra-wealthy jetting off to their holiday homes in the sun?  Many families at all levels of wealth will be going to spend Christmas with with relatives in the UK - half the population were born off-Island after all, so many will still have parent etc there.  It may be the only holiday some kids get.

Having relatives (or partner's relatives) living off-Island applies to teachers as well, of course - do you think we're going to attract people to teach shortage subjects by telling them they can't go home at Christmas?

This clearly a one-off caused by Christmas falling on a Sunday and presumably won't be needed in other circumstances.

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57 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

To quote Oscar Wilde "We obviously move in different circles".  Do you really think the the only people who travel for Christmas are the ultra-wealthy jetting off to their holiday homes in the sun?  Many families at all levels of wealth will be going to spend Christmas with with relatives in the UK - half the population were born off-Island after all, so many will still have parent etc there.  It may be the only holiday some kids get.

Having relatives (or partner's relatives) living off-Island applies to teachers as well, of course - do you think we're going to attract people to teach shortage subjects by telling them they can't go home at Christmas?

This clearly a one-off caused by Christmas falling on a Sunday and presumably won't be needed in other circumstances.

You think everyone who might want to go and visit friends and family for Christmas can do so?

Wow.  To quote Oscar Wilde “we obviously move in different circles”

Good for you though if nobody you know can’t afford the cost of getting them and their kids on and off island at peak time or afford the time off work.

No wonder we have such issues if the fortunate can’t even contemplate the issues that many others have to consider.  So many on here not seeing an issue shows how big the divide has become.

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47 minutes ago, 0bserver said:

When are they planning to make up for the day of lost learning? 

It's the last day before Christmas. I'm sure the kids can learn to wear tissue paper crowns and watch 30 year old films on their own time.

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I have sent to Government children welfare services, all the people on Manx Radio facebook complaining about not being able to take an extra  day off at Xmas to look after their children.  If they can't organise a day off with months of notice, what happens when one of the children fall ill.

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4 hours ago, Banker said:

The teachers are thanking Julie by taking more industrial action now they’ve returned from 6 weeks holiday!!

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/teaching-union-to-escalate-action-short-of-strike/

Maybe the feeling is that this will be more effective than taking industrial action during holidays, unless you know different?  You seem to have a lot of thoughts on industrial action Banker, are you the type of person who would support the removal from workers of the right to take industrial action?  Just asking for a friend.

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