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1 minute ago, HeliX said:

That'll be why there's such big queues to join the profession and such fierce competition for jobs.

Again, teachers aren’t unique in that.

There is a skills shortage across nearly every profession. It’s just teachers are the ones who seem completely unaware of what is going on everywhere else.

Nowhere can get staff, it’s not just schools.  Even the finance houses that many claim to be employee utopia are desperate for staff hence the shift away from trying to recruit people with specific skills to just recruiting anyone with a brain and training them to do whatever the job is.

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8 minutes ago, Banker said:

Not a lot of sympathy on social media for the teachers except their families ,money grabbers, inconsiderate & didn’t they have enough time off last 3 years already are some of the more pleasant ones!!

Hmmm, notorious curtain twitcher uses social media posts to reaffirm irrational hatred of teachers.

Confirmation bias anyone?

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5 minutes ago, Asthehills said:

That’s some serious straw clutching 😂

As a teacher you must see the many things wrong with that post?

Yawn.

2 minutes ago, Asthehills said:

Again, teachers aren’t unique in that.

There is a skills shortage across nearly every profession. It’s just teachers are the ones who seem completely unaware of what is going on everywhere else.

Nowhere can get staff, it’s not just schools.  Even the finance houses that many claim to be employee utopia are desperate for staff hence the shift away from trying to recruit people with specific skills to just recruiting anyone with a brain and training them to do whatever the job is.

Are the wages are rising in the finance houses?

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Just now, Asthehills said:

Again, teachers aren’t unique in that.

There is a skills shortage across nearly every profession. It’s just teachers are the ones who seem completely unaware of what is going on everywhere else.

Nowhere can get staff, it’s not just schools.  Even the finance houses that many claim to be employee utopia are desperate for staff hence the shift away from trying to recruit people with specific skills to just recruiting anyone with a brain and training them to do whatever the job is.

OK, but what those firms can do is raise wages to attract new staff.  Schools can’t do that.

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3 minutes ago, Asthehills said:

Again, teachers aren’t unique in that.

There is a skills shortage across nearly every profession. It’s just teachers are the ones who seem completely unaware of what is going on everywhere else.

Nowhere can get staff, it’s not just schools.  Even the finance houses that many claim to be employee utopia are desperate for staff hence the shift away from trying to recruit people with specific skills to just recruiting anyone with a brain and training them to do whatever the job is.

It predates the pandemic by years in teaching. Not so across all sectors, in fact in many it was very much an employers market pre-pandemic.

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18 minutes ago, Mr Helmut Fromage said:

Jesrsey schools are open but you probably know that - please wash your curtains they’re going to get peppered over the next few days as you sadly and predictably twitch the shit out of them….

I’m at work getting my new unlimited bonus , needed to put my kids through KWC 😀

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10 minutes ago, Roxanne said:

Like taking stuff to recycling after they’ve finished work. 

What is that supposed to mean?  Is that a dig at me doing a tip run today when it needed doing?

If so, why?  Are you suggesting that makes me a mug or something for just chipping in and doing what’s needs doing for the benefit of the business?

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A bright STEM graduate could be earning 2-3x or more what a teacher earns within a few years. If not far beyond. 

If they go down the teaching route, they get shit pay, grumpy people grumbling about their enormous holidays and kids that they’re having to look after more and more because the parents don’t.

Is it any wonder there’s a shortage of teachers?

The UK government will give you a 26k tax free bursary to go into teaching, and even that isn’t giving them the number they need. 

Most employers are finding they’re having to offer bigger pay rises, with significant inflation, and cost of living rises, along with staff shortages, it’s an employees market. Why should teaching or nursing be any different? You get what you pay for. 

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4 hours ago, Meoir Shee said:

Have any teachers withdrawn their labour or are they simply removing goodwill?  You also have a beef with yesterday’s Bank Holiday, are you suggesting schools should have remained open on the day the nation buried the monarch?

Still waiting Banker baby, you still grouchy about yesterday’s Bank Holiday?  Any teachers actually withdrawn their labour?  Or are you content to keep making things up?

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3 hours ago, Meoir Shee said:

Hi Banker, has any teacher said they won’t do their job?

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/teaching-union-to-escalate-action-short-of-strike/

Teachers will still continue to prepare for their timetabled lessons, teach and mark and assess pupils’ work.”

You seem to be making things up.  Again.

Come on, stop hiding behind laughing emojis, just answer the question.  Or are you content to keep making things up?  Again.

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2 minutes ago, Roxanne said:

Not a dig, more a comment about how you have normalised doing things that aren't in your job description and that your boss has allowed it to happen. Coming from a one time HR service, it's not something that is encouraged in the work place. Job descriptions came in to avoid staff being taken for granted.  That you are happy to do it means the it becomes expected, both for you and for other employees and, more importantly, for your boss. It sets an unprofessional precedent. 

It is expected in most private sector jobs particularly those who aspire to higher salaries/bonuses etc. it’s obviously not encouraged in public sector to try & help the public outside their limited roles & hours! Health is an exception where I’ve seen many examples of staff doing extra to help 

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38 minutes ago, Manx17 said:

Get the teachers paid so students get an education like you did and your child did and if you don’t understand the importance of that maybe you need to step............

So many of todays problems can be aided by good education. It is invaluable on both an individual and societyy level. There is far too much angst and distress and we spend far too much money in trying to deal with the impact on those who left out. 

Not too keen on strike action, but agree with work to rule all for it for the reasons above (Rox). Pay good teachers a really good salary and deter increasing workload and responsibilities without consultation and reward.

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