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How would upping the income threshold for social housing risk "...more pressure on waiting lists, longer waiting times for allocation, more people in limbo, people with less need displacing those with greater need." by my workings it would do the opposite, however just risk less votes for Joney.

Why make hard decisions now when we can just advocate Peter Pan policies of building out 100s of new homes that would take the best part of a decade to come to fruition (even with the will and funding)?

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5 minutes ago, Mercenary said:

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How would upping the income threshold for social housing risk "...more pressure on waiting lists, longer waiting times for allocation, more people in limbo, people with less need displacing those with greater need." by my workings it would do the opposite, however just risk less votes for Joney.

Why make hard decisions now when we can just advocate Peter Pan policies of building out 100s of new homes that would take the best part of a decade to come to fruition (even with the will and funding)?

Presumably because more people would qualify for social housing and so the waiting lists would grow accordingly? 

 

Just a guess.

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1 hour ago, Mercenary said:

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How would upping the income threshold for social housing risk "...more pressure on waiting lists, longer waiting times for allocation, more people in limbo, people with less need displacing those with greater need." by my workings it would do the opposite, however just risk less votes for Joney.

Why make hard decisions now when we can just advocate Peter Pan policies of building out 100s of new homes that would take the best part of a decade to come to fruition (even with the will and funding)?

 

1 hour ago, Mercenary said:

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How would upping the income threshold for social housing risk "...more pressure on waiting lists, longer waiting times for allocation, more people in limbo, people with less need displacing those with greater need." by my workings it would do the opposite, however just risk less votes for Joney.

Why make hard decisions now when we can just advocate Peter Pan policies of building out 100s of new homes that would take the best part of a decade to come to fruition (even with the will and funding)?

Why haven't we got the will and the funding to build hundreds of new homes?

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It would be interesting to know how many empty social houses there are across island, I would imagine at least 120/30.

An elderly relative moved out of a 3 bedroom house in port Erin , 9 months ago it was in excellent state with fairly new carpets, blinds etc so someone could have moved in. It’s still empty as is the one next door which has been empty for 15 months!!

I know of at least 6 others in port Erin all empty for at least 6 months. Eventually they will get round to ripping everything out because of health & safety & rent them as shells but the amount of perfectly good social housing is scandalous 

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1 hour ago, 0bserver said:

Presumably because more people would qualify for social housing and so the waiting lists would grow accordingly? 

 

Just a guess.

Ah - perhaps I've misunderstood that one. I initially read it as voting to tighten the thresholds, but perhaps it was the other way round (which would seem madness)

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41 minutes ago, Banker said:

It would be interesting to know how many empty social houses there are across island, I would imagine at least 120/30.

An elderly relative moved out of a 3 bedroom house in port Erin , 9 months ago it was in excellent state with fairly new carpets, blinds etc so someone could have moved in. It’s still empty as is the one next door which has been empty for 15 months!!

I know of at least 6 others in port Erin all empty for at least 6 months. Eventually they will get round to ripping everything out because of health & safety & rent them as shells but the amount of perfectly good social housing is scandalous 

Sounds like a Port Erin problem. Here in Peel the turn-around time frame is usually around 2-4 weeks.

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3 minutes ago, Mercenary said:

Ah - perhaps I've misunderstood that one. I initially read it as voting to tighten the thresholds, but perhaps it was the other way round (which would seem madness)

I could be wrong on it but I think Moorhouse was suggesting upping the limits for being eligible for social housing. 

Then Joney Fargher has voted against it (as Labour Leader) because if they upped the limits the lists would become even bigger. 

That's what she said on the Phil Gawnio Show.

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How would upping the income threshold for social housing risk "...more pressure on waiting lists, longer waiting times for allocation, more people in limbo, people with less need displacing those with greater need." by my workings it would do the opposite, however just risk less votes for Joney.

Why make hard decisions now when we can just advocate Peter Pan policies of building out 100s of new homes that would take the best part of a decade to come to fruition (even with the will and funding)?

It all comes down to the good old drive through Pulrose (with windows up and doors locked) looking at the cars that are nicer than mine and TVs through the windows that are bigger than mine, seeing people with £500 trainers and £1000 jackets. 

 

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1 hour ago, Moghrey Mie said:

Land has to be zoned for residential before they can build on 'green fields'.

They lobby really hard for the 'plan' to be zoned for housing, they know then that they will get their way via planning as it's harder to raise objections !.

There is a difference between what developers want and what the island needs !

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2 hours ago, Banker said:

It would be interesting to know how many empty social houses there are across island, I would imagine at least 120/30.

An elderly relative moved out of a 3 bedroom house in port Erin , 9 months ago it was in excellent state with fairly new carpets, blinds etc so someone could have moved in. It’s still empty as is the one next door which has been empty for 15 months!!

I know of at least 6 others in port Erin all empty for at least 6 months. Eventually they will get round to ripping everything out because of health & safety & rent them as shells but the amount of perfectly good social housing is scandalous 

people should be allowed to view them and is they are happy with the present arrangements  and facilities  or a kitchen or bathroom fitted by a previous tenant  then be allowed to enter into a letting agreement  , after all its saving the local authority time and money , not counting solving a housing problem 

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2 hours ago, Banker said:

t would be interesting to know how many empty social houses there are across island, I would imagine at least 120/30.

Douglas Council used to announce the empty properties and show long they have been empty at each monthly full Council meeting. I assume though Government have a way of monitoring the situation centrally. 

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