Harry Lamb Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 https://www.energyfm.net/cms/news_story_756027.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook&fbclid=IwAR1f8px2y1OAtS5c2ZLl8O28Rx2GxafsiNrYpVu9RoNSDfSRrb4GtjWZZVY The report identifies a lot of problems beyond the control of the police: cooperation with other agencies, and matters only government can address. The DHA response is a masterpiece of deflection and "Yes Minister" tactics - the information is out of date, the inspection failed to take into account etc. Some matters will grudgingly 'be considered'. The police have largely done as suggested and come out quite well; the government less so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 59 minutes ago, Harry Lamb said: https://www.energyfm.net/cms/news_story_756027.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook&fbclid=IwAR1f8px2y1OAtS5c2ZLl8O28Rx2GxafsiNrYpVu9RoNSDfSRrb4GtjWZZVY The report identifies a lot of problems beyond the control of the police: cooperation with other agencies, and matters only government can address. The DHA response is a masterpiece of deflection and "Yes Minister" tactics - the information is out of date, the inspection failed to take into account etc. Some matters will grudgingly 'be considered'. The police have largely done as suggested and come out quite well; the government less so. Well it’s better than the Mets inspection with loads of criminals employed!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 'Serious organised crime' sounds a bit like the Sopranos have moved to the island? I imagine it refers to the fact that the island is an outlet for drug gangs from the UK, rather than us having a branch of the Mafia based in the back rooms of the Outback or Ballakebabs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysteron Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 32 minutes ago, Max Power said: 'Serious organised crime' sounds a bit like the Sopranos have moved to the island? I imagine it refers to the fact that the island is an outlet for drug gangs from the UK, rather than us having a branch of the Mafia based in the back rooms of the Outback or Ballakebabs? Organised Crime is defined as 'planned and co-ordinated criminal behaviour and conduct by people working together on a continuous basis. Their motivation is often, but not always, financial gain'. So for example, the above definition would fit a gang of shoplifters operating in Strand Street. Not quite what most of us imagine organised crime to be. Some might say the definition nearly fits most governments... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 58 minutes ago, Banker said: Well it’s better than the Mets inspection with loads of criminals employed!! Not bothered about the ‘Met’, we should be bothered about IOM Constabulary as opposed to other UK forces. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 38 minutes ago, 2112 said: Not bothered about the ‘Met’, we should be bothered about IOM Constabulary as opposed to other UK forces. Well I don’t have a problem with the IOM constabulary, do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 53 minutes ago, Banker said: Well I don’t have a problem with the IOM constabulary, do you? Thanks Gary... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 3 hours ago, Harry Lamb said: https://www.energyfm.net/cms/news_story_756027.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook&fbclid=IwAR1f8px2y1OAtS5c2ZLl8O28Rx2GxafsiNrYpVu9RoNSDfSRrb4GtjWZZVY The report identifies a lot of problems beyond the control of the police: cooperation with other agencies, and matters only government can address. The DHA response is a masterpiece of deflection and "Yes Minister" tactics - the information is out of date, the inspection failed to take into account etc. Some matters will grudgingly 'be considered'. The police have largely done as suggested and come out quite well; the government less so. Lack of public engagement. Police Consultative Forum needed to ensure the public's views are known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 2 hours ago, Banker said: Well I don’t have a problem with the IOM constabulary, do you? Not really, but I behave myself, I make sure I obey the laws of the land, tax my vehicles, don’t do drugs - so I don’t have any dealings with them. However, we need to concentrate on the IOM not using other jurisdictions as an excuse for our failings (smokescreen/get out of jail free card). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 3 hours ago, Mysteron said: Organised Crime is defined as 'planned and co-ordinated criminal behaviour and conduct by people working together on a continuous basis. Their motivation is often, but not always, financial gain'. So for example, the above definition would fit a gang of shoplifters operating in Strand Street. Not quite what most of us imagine organised crime to be. Some might say the definition nearly fits most governments... Well some might say that but it’s a long way from a definition of Organised Crime that “ nearly” fits most governments. Some examples, if you have any, may help with an explanation of that statement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 7 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: Well some might say that but it’s a long way from a definition of Organised Crime that “ nearly” fits most governments. Some examples, if you have any, may help with an explanation of that statement Have you opened your rates bill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 5 hours ago, Mysteron said: Organised Crime is defined as 'planned and co-ordinated criminal behaviour and conduct by people working together on a continuous basis. Their motivation is often, but not always, financial gain'. So for example, the above definition would fit a gang of shoplifters operating in Strand Street. Not quite what most of us imagine organised crime to be. Some might say the definition nearly fits most governments... Well you have a point there, our government behaves a bit like a Mafia organisation. It employs all the tools in much the same way, extortion, bribery, bullying, threatening, manipulation, in fact everything but murder, as far as we know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 The full inspection report is here: An inspection of the Isle of Man Constabulary The actual inspection took place in November and December 2021, so the Government has sat on this for about a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Few interesting nuggets The IOMC is currently working with the Isle of Man Immigration Service and the Attorney General’s Chambers to require ferry companies to supply passenger information. This, as it is developed, will increase checks and intelligence gathering at the border. We all suspected this post COVID when there was an attempt to keep landing forms being a thing. Seems there's a push now to link up much like airline 'advanced passenger information' and may explain the recent changes to the SPCOs booking forms looking for more personal data than previously. Also as below; 1) Number of drug busts via post rise massively 2) Response within target times down heavily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoops Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 6 hours ago, Roger Mexico said: The full inspection report is here: An inspection of the Isle of Man Constabulary The actual inspection took place in November and December 2021, so the Government has sat on this for about a year. They were going to shred it, but the shredder was broken and was sent to the DoI to fix it, as they had specified a Manx shredder for Manx problems, the DoI sent it away to the company who made it, who said that the spec...................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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