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2 minutes ago, doc.fixit said:

I'm surprised that there are no comments about the gov's desire to get rid of work permits!

Are there any views or is it ok if the gov. just carries on with it?

They should leave permits as they are.

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Get on with it and get rid of them.

They have been hindering business for years, and now more than ever nearly every sector is struggling to fill positions.

Ditch the permits and let’s get more workers here at all salary levels ASAP

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Alf want's 15.000 thousand new residents and will do anything in his power to make it easy, although this week anyone considering relocating to the IOM will have seen the chaos at the Airport along with the comments from the minister 'not ideal' for fucks sake get a grip, the once great IOM is going down the plughole and its incompetents like that who are causing the problems. I do really despair at what is happening to a wonderful Island because of the fucking idiots in charge.

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9 minutes ago, Ativa said:

Get on with it and get rid of them.

I got a work permit for an employee in 24 hours not long ago. It’s hardly any barrier and they should be kept. I’m guessing you probably aren’t Manx. 

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3 minutes ago, SuperHans said:

I got a work permit for an employee in 24 hours not long ago. It’s hardly any barrier and they should be kept. I’m guessing you probably aren’t Manx. 

I have stamp in the passport.  As Manx as they come.

What about you Hans?

Work permits have historically been a huge barrier to bringing good staff in.  Do you not think we have any skills shortages on island at the moment?

 

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4 minutes ago, Ativa said:

Work permits have historically been a huge barrier to bringing good staff in.  Do you not think we have any skills shortages on island at the moment?

Absolute rubbish. I think the skills shortage is because nobody wants to come and work here and that work permits are the very least of the problem when people can’t afford to rent or buy a property and find out what the cost of living is like. 

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5 minutes ago, SuperHans said:

Absolute rubbish. I think the skills shortage is because nobody wants to come and work here and that work permits are the very least of the problem when people can’t afford to rent or buy a property and find out what the cost of living is like. 

In which case, there is no downside in getting rid of them if nobody wants to come and work here?

So what’s the issue?  If you are right it won’t make the blindest bit of difference.

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The work permit system served its purpose at the time it was needed. It’s no longer needed. We don’t have thousands of people coming here looking for work and most of the ones that did, have left. We have an acute skills shortage and need to be doing everything possible to encourage people to come forward to work without the worry of whether it’s worth it or not due to the work permit situation. 

If we get to a stage of full employment and thousands coming back over to TAKE OUR JOBS then it can be looked at again but right now we need to simplify the whole system. 

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The hospitality industry has been struggling since post COVID for staff, as an example.

A number of closures have been catalysed because you simply can’t get staff for love nor money.

The work permit system just adds another barrier, even if according to SuperHans, they’re turned around quickly. 

Plus, the list of exemptions is huge, but, finding staff, even in those exempt industries, is a struggle. 

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The real reason that work permits system adds another barrier is down to Government wanting rid. Nothing wrong with work permits, but they need to bring it into the digital age.  In construction industry we need work permits not just for  workers, but need companies to register for tax, as not to put local companies at a disadvantage.  The CIS system needs to be enforced in domestic and public works, but while Government doesn't understand it own policies in this matter, the industry will ultimately fail with no work permits in place. 

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1 hour ago, AcousticallyChallenged said:

The hospitality industry has been struggling since post COVID for staff, as an example.

A number of closures have been catalysed because you simply can’t get staff for love nor money.

I’m sure it has but people need to accept that it’s got nothing to do with work permits. And it has everything to do with nobody on £10 an hour being able to afford to live here. That’s it. Nothing to do with work permits and everything to do with accommodation and cost of living being far too high for people on low wages. 

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27 minutes ago, SuperHans said:

I’m sure it has but people need to accept that it’s got nothing to do with work permits. And it has everything to do with nobody on £10 an hour being able to afford to live here. That’s it. Nothing to do with work permits and everything to do with accommodation and cost of living being far too high for people on low wages. 

Cost of living here is no higher than huge parts of the UK where wages are not much different.  People keep going on about cost of living here and appear to have no comprehension of what the UK is like.

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1 minute ago, Ativa said:

Cost of living here is no higher than huge parts of the UK where wages are not much different.  People keep going on about cost of living here and appear to have no comprehension of what the UK is like.

It doesn’t cost you £650PM to rent a one bed flat almost anywhere else in the north of England for a start. 

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