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Looking at some of the last replies, I'm somehow tempted to think that the often mentioned phrase "there's nothing else....." might really only be that - a phrase, a sentence that has been edged into many peoples brains by repeating it over and over again, without actually thinking about it...

 

Looking at some of the yearly stats, however, seems to paint a different picture:

 

According to the Annual Police Report 2004/2005, approximately 65% of all people arrested had consumed too much alcohol or were arrested for alcohol related offences. and "common assault" as well as "criminal damage" still make up some of the highest figures - doesn't necessarily mean all these offences were carried out by drunks, but a certain percentage certainly was (kicked off mirrors come to mind).

 

Charging £ 2.50+ for 275ml a bottle of WKD in the pubs is having little effect, the stuff only costs about 75p a bottle in the shops that sort of mark up should be illegal, and it can only encourage younger less well off drinkers to buy a load from the coop, go and get lashed up in a bus stop and end the night by vandalising the toilets, surely they would be better of with some sort of supervision in the pub!

What about charging £ 2.50 in the pub and the shop? I agree that some of the mark-ups are steep to say the least, but lower prices in pubs somehow seem unlikely...

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According to the Annual Police Report 2004/2005, approximately 65% of all people arrested had consumed too much alcohol or were arrested for alcohol related offences.

 

Any kind of wrongdoers have to be almost completely anaesthetized by alcohol before our incompetent doughnut-eaters have any chance of catching and charging them.

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£2.70 for a WKD in C'est La Vie! :angry:

 

Anyways...

 

Most of the people I know, of my age, think that what is really needed is a place to sit and just chill. Where abouts in the centre of Douglas can you do that after some shopping? Apart from a pub (where you have to be a certain age anyway), a cafe where you have to eat... etc. Maybe a place with some benches/couches etc

 

It's not nice having to catch up with friends outside in the cold :(

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Ok there are things to do over here, but like alot of people have said the younger less well off people cant afford to go as its so expensive ie the cinema or bowling and you probs have to be 18+. Even the places that are free etc people will avoid due to the large amount of chavs that will eventually claim it.

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£2.70 for a WKD in C'est La Vie! :angry:

Most of the people I know, of my age, think that what is really needed is a place to sit and just chill. Where abouts in the centre of Douglas can you do that after some shopping? Apart from a pub (where you have to be a certain age anyway), a cafe where you have to eat... etc. Maybe a place with some benches/couches

 

How do you know the price of WKD in C'est La Vie? ;)

 

That's a very good idea. There's sweet FA to do of an evening except drinking if you want to socialise. Whilst living in Manchester we'd often head to coffee shops which were open all hours or to Muslim ice-cream shops where you could sit and chill for hours eating the finest ice-cream and yoghurt drinks in an environment without drunks.

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Or a place where you can sit WITHOUT having to buy anything to be able to sit there. It is so annoying, especially if you want to catch up with friends and you *have* to buy something from where ever you are to be allowed to sit. Take Ottakers cafe for example, if you aren't reading or having something from the cafe then you are asked to move.

 

Even if this place to sit charged 50p/£1, or something small like that, for a day ticket to use their seat facilities, it would still attract many people! Saves all the young people hanging out in the cold, causing trouble etc. And gives the people who don't like the atmosphere of a pub etc somewhere to sit. Drinks and snacks could be available, but you don't need to purchase them in order to use the seats.

 

A big enough place is needed in Douglas too. It could be open until late, have seperate booths for privacy or open tables and seats etc.

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Or a place where you can sit WITHOUT having to buy anything to be able to sit there. It is so annoying, especially if you want to catch up with friends and you *have* to buy something from where ever you are to be allowed to sit. Take Ottakers cafe for example, if you aren't reading or having something from the cafe then you are asked to move.

 

You really think thats unreasonable ???

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Or a place where you can sit WITHOUT having to buy anything to be able to sit there. It is so annoying, especially if you want to catch up with friends and you *have* to buy something from where ever you are to be allowed to sit. Take Ottakers cafe for example, if you aren't reading or having something from the cafe then you are asked to move.

 

You really think thats unreasonable ???

 

I didn't say it was unreasonable, I'm making an point that we need somewhere to sit where we don't have to purchase things in order to be allowed to use their seats

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I didn't say it was unreasonable, I'm making an point that we need somewhere to sit where we don't have to purchase things in order to be allowed to use their seats

Point taken. But you cant expect business premises to provide seating for you.

Doesnt the youth service operate anymore ? I was thinking you might like to meet in a youth club.

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Putting the price of booze out of reach of the average person will only drive them to get there highs from other substanses.

 

price of a pill these days i think is about £2.50 go figure.

Somehow doubt that... Not everyone who drinks would also take other substances, and I think there's a substantial difference between having a few pints or a few Es/Lines/whatever. To put it differently: Can't see the folks down at the Legion popping a pill and hopping off on a techno trip, only because the G&T has gotten more expensive overnight....

 

And the price wouldn't be out of reach - it would just be less affordable, hence reducing consumption, and making alcohol what it should be: A substance which should be enjoyed consciously and in moderation, not drunk until Armageddon rages in your head the next morning...

 

And unlike increases in the price of petrol, gas or electricity, an increase in the price of alcohol would not hit the average resident that hard, as alcohol is a substance on which you spend your disposable income, not a basic need....

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I didn't say it was unreasonable, I'm making an point that we need somewhere to sit where we don't have to purchase things in order to be allowed to use their seats

 

I understand what your saying G89, but describe what you want a bit more. What example in the UK is similar to your idea? Who would staff it? Where does their pay come from? Who pays for the lush sofas? Do you know how much the electricity and heating bils are for public places?!!

 

I don't think it's un-reasonable to shell out £2 for a coffee (drink slowly!) for the privelage of using a premises and all its facilities. It comes down to economics - it all has to be paid for and owners have to make a profit or at least break even - not make a loss.

 

If you mean something run by the state, then as Lone Wolf mentioned there are Youth Clubs. If they don't offer what you want, then you are at that age when you could put your entrepreneurial skills to use and suggest what would be good, perhaps offer some skills in setting it up.

 

BTW this is not an attack on your idea or you, just a perspective that any cafe owner, shop owner would more than likely think.

 

Wasn't there something like this in Onchan? Kenyons cafe or something?

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I don't see why the price of alcohol should go up just because some people like Amadeus don't like other people's drinking habits. Mind your own eh?

Thankfully this is just a thread and Amadeus has not yet lived up to his aspirations of dictatorship...

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We should introduce dolphin rides.

Just train up some dolphins to take people around Douglas Bay.

 

Taser Blast - bit like laser blast but with tasers. Bit more of an edge as you'd actually be temporarily paralysed and not just score meaningless points.

 

Re-introduce the golden egg hunt. We all enjoyed that and we could make it an annual event.

 

And re-open the fun house so we can all experience friction burns on the plastic rides which had no padding.

 

Stick some cable cars on the Laxey Wheel. To make it more interesting, open up the river base into a tank and fill it with sharks and tropical fish so the cable car goes round and at one point is submersed. That'd be cool.

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