Is It Appropriate?

[Minnie]

At the end of the day we're all entitled to our opinions, we're not here to launch personal attacks on individuals. I found what that woman did yesterday inappropriate behaviour considering her surroundings. Other people may not agree, that's fine by me. I have a problem, not with mothers breastfeeding in public generally, but with my children being subjected to something that may potentionally cause them embarassment or unease.

[Ripsaw]

To be honest I don't see the point in your post

The point is that the desision was taken by people in an office that people would be offended in Britain, where as in 24 other countries it wasn't.

 

The British people have been brainwashed into thinking that there is something "rude" about the human body as well as other emotive subjects.

 

The simple fact is that if a woman chooses to breast feed a baby in public, neither you nor anyone else should be "trained" to even think about it, never mind start a thread asking if others are made to feel uncomfortable by it.

 

How can anyone say "it is perfectly natural as long as..."? How dare any of us place conditions of acceptability of "natural actions" on others?

 

And as far as women who "flaunt the breasts in public *because they can*" is concerned... maybe they do... maybe they are laughing in the faces of all those who have a problem admitting their inbred pyscological problems.

 

I am 100% in agreement that covering your childrens eyes to acceptable behavior only ensures that they will grow up with the same misguided outlook.

[Minnie]

I failed to see your point in specifying that I in particular looked at the link. Ripsaw, you're asking us not to be judgemental, although you seem to judging the paretning skills of people who have children who may be embarrassed by certain things. If your child was embarrassed in a certain situation you would do what you could to avoid them being embarassed and take them out of that situation, that is your duty and right as a parent.

 

It's completely natural to reproduce but you wouldn't let your young child watch a couple in the act of reproducing. It may be natural, but to some people it still may be viewed as not acceptable. Who's to say what's acceptable and what's not, it's down to personal opinions and views.

 

Personally, I'd find it interesting to view the advert to see what connection the makers of the film make between a breastfeeding baby/glimpse of a nipple and encouraging people to vote in an election???

[Ripsaw]

Even though the message is about "making informed choices"... I don't give a flying fig about the Election, that part isn't relevent.

 

It is the simple fact that British eyes are deemed too sensitive for naked breasts even when they are fufilling their designed purpose... as is being brilliently maintained in this thread.

[Minnie]

Even though the message is about "making informed choices"... I don't give a flying fig about the Election, that part isn't relevent.

 

It is the simple fact that British eyes are deemed too sensitive for naked breasts even when they are fufilling their designed purpose... as is being brilliently maintained in this thread.

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But why specify that I should look at the link? I don't have a problem with a naked breast, I have a problem with my children being put in embarassing situations. And I think it's unnecessary to show an advert like that during a screening of a children's film such as Harry Potter, not because I'm prudish but because I fail to see the necessity in children seeing such an advert.

[Guest Rox]

I think the only thing being maintained brilliantly in this thread and every other thread is that Minnie chooses to amuse herself with the responses she knows are likely to upset and 'wind up' other posters..

 

In fact - I can't think of one single post she has made on here that hasn't been designed to do just that.

 

She could almost be Vader.

 

Or one of his chums.

[Jay]

Even though the message is about "making informed choices"... I don't give a flying fig about the Election, that part isn't relevent.

 

It is the simple fact that British eyes are deemed too sensitive for naked breasts even when they are fufilling their designed purpose... as is being brilliently maintained in this thread.

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Is it right to exploit a child in this way in order to advertise anything at all?

 

Perhaps the decision was taken because the powers that be quite rightly thought there was a chance that some people would take offence.

[Minnie]

I think the only thing being maintained brilliantly in this thread and every other thread is that Minnie chooses to amuse herself with the responses she knows are likely to upset and 'wind up' other posters..

 

In fact - I can't think of one single post she has made on here that hasn't been designed to do just that.

 

She could almost be Vader.

 

Or one of his chums.

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Pardon???? I'm 32 years old, I'm not here to amuse myself by winding up and upsetting others. What exactly have I said to upset others?

[Ripsaw]

It's completely natural to reproduce but you wouldn't let your young child watch a couple in the act of reproducing. It may be natural, but to some people it still may be viewed as not acceptable

I own books that illustrate reproduction, pregnancy, child birth, early life and many of it's ailments and advice. My son and I *read* them in rotation with Thomas the Tank Engine, Spot the Dog and The Muppet Annual 1982.

 

I don't have the slightest problem with him knowing the truth about where babies come from, how they are conceived, carried, born, fed... It isn't in his face, it is simple reading and he learns as we read and discuss. I'm not into teaching him the wrong way then changing facts as he grows, I prefer to get it right from the start.

 

I aim to teach him correctly now and not to be phased, because I know that one day he will reach puberty, and I don't want him to hide giggling behind the bike shed having his head filled with xxxx from kids whose mothers covered their eyes and plugged their ears.

 

My son knows what breasts are and he knows what their primary function are. No doubt in time he will giggle as he learns about their sexual nature, but I will play no part in hiding him from true facts that are of benefit to their intended recipient.

 

As far as "live action" is concerned, I doubt the situation will arise, but in the mean time I sure wouldn't switch off a nature programme, or any of the many programmes aimed at family development. I would be right there though, to answer any questions that may arise during the course of the programme.

[Jay]

I think the only thing being maintained brilliantly in this thread and every other thread is that Minnie chooses to amuse herself with the responses she knows are likely to upset and 'wind up' other posters..

 

In fact - I can't think of one single post she has made on here that hasn't been designed to do just that.

 

She could almost be Vader.

 

Or one of his chums.

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Are you suggsesting everyone should post only what people will agree with?

 

I think Minnie has made a brave stand here by voicing an opinion which she must have known was going to be unpopular with some.

 

It's quite clear from previous contributions by others to this thread that she isnt entirely alone, just one of a few who aren't afraid to say something just because it may be unpopular.

[Ripsaw]

Offence based on perception?

 

It's like a fear of spiders or worms. Some fear them, others will fail to see what the big deal is. Occasionally the person with fear will admit and confront their problem, very rarely can they justify it.

[Guest Rox]

ust one of a few who aren't afraid to say something just because it may be unpopular.

 

Possibly - but she doesn't seem to be afraid of having LOTS to say about LOTS of unpopular issues. Sorry - but it smacks of someone enjoying having a fight to me.

[Minnie]

I aim to teach him correctly now and not to be phased, because I know that one day he will reach puberty, and I don't want him to hide giggling behind the bike shed having his head filled with xxxx from kids whose mothers covered their eyes and plugged their ears.

 

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Ripsaw, we're not here to judge others parenting skills, you have your way of bringing up your child and i'm sure you do a fantastic job, but we all have different views and ways of teaching our children. No one way is better or more appropriate than another.

 

With reference to Rox's post, I take great offence to what you're saying and insinuating. If I have upset any one individual with anything I've said then I apologise for causing upset, but I'm not apologising for having an opinion.

[Jay]

Offence based on perception?

 

It's like a fear of spiders or worms. Some fear them, others will fail to see what the big deal is. Occasionally the person with fear will admit and confront their problem, very rarely can they justify it.

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Worms?...spiders?......

 

I was thinking more along the lines that people may take offence by the exploitation of a baby in that way.

 

Do you think it's appropriate to use a child like that?

[Speckled Frost]

I'm butting in here having only bothered to read the first and last page but I'm not entirely in agreement with Ripsaw from the little I have read.

 

Society has to function on norms and precedents. It's all about social relativism (in some societies cannabilism is acceptable).

 

Rightly or wrongly nudity in public isn't deemed acceptable in Britain.

 

Having sex is 'natural' yet we wouldn't expect people to do it in public.

People are arrested for being naked in public.

 

Personally, a woman breast feeding in public doesn't bother me but it isn't inherently wrong to be offended by it or feel a need to shield your child from it.

 

I admire your parenting approach Ripsaw and believe it is healthy to bring up your child openly but Minnie has the right to do what she feels she needs to to protect her kids.