P.K. Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 3 minutes ago, HeliX said: Israel killing kids is just banter then is it? Who said that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 (edited) Another duplicate. Edited September 4 by P.K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham_N_Eggs Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 On 9/4/2024 at 9:24 PM, P.K. said: The current status quo is being forced to rot in Gaza living on handouts as the place gets more and more unsustainable Well, that works well... You're so close to getting it... why are they forced to live on handouts; why are they being forced to rot in Gaza; who controls their resources; who is destroying their infrastructure; who is killing them? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeteroErectus Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 Really interesting to see the massive effort currently being undertaken, to vaccinate the children of Gaza against Polio. There was 1 case in which the child became paralysed. No deaths. Apparently it's needed due to the "displacement" currently underway. You'd really think stopping the serial killer zionists would be the "low hanging fruit" to quickly improve the lives of Palestinian children... 10,600 murdered so far. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham_N_Eggs Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 45 minutes ago, HeteroErectus said: Really interesting to see the massive effort currently being undertaken, to vaccinate the children of Gaza against Polio. There was 1 case in which the child became paralysed. No deaths. Apparently it's needed due to the "displacement" currently underway. You'd really think stopping the serial killer zionists would be the "low hanging fruit" to quickly improve the lives of Palestinian children... 10,600 murdered so far. Fun fact, the vaccine for polio can cause polio especially in under-vaccinated communities: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10664300/ https://www.who.int/emergencies/disease-outbreak-news/item/2024-DON500 Also oral administered doses (which they are giving in Gaza) aren't as effective in malnourished children: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/343828258_EVALUATION_OF_THE_IMMUNE_RESPONSE_TO_POLIO_VACCINE_IN_MALNOURISHED_CHILDREN_IN_SANA'A_CITY In other words it's all for show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 On 9/6/2024 at 1:03 PM, Ham_N_Eggs said: You're so close to getting it... why are they forced to live on handouts; why are they being forced to rot in Gaza; who controls their resources; who is destroying their infrastructure; who is killing them? @Ham_N_Eggs As I have explained previously the enclave was created by Egypt as a haven for all those fleeing the conflict when the Arab League first tried to utterly destroy the fledgling State of Israel in 1948. So the Arab League created the Gaza problem of stateless people going nowhere jammed into an area of just 141 square miles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 Erm PK. My understanding is that you state that Israel became a sovereign state via the UN resolutions in 1947. You are aware I assume that these resolutions also created a sovereign Palestinian state. This included Gaza. At the time Pan Arabism was the ideology de jour in the Middle East and Arab leaders rejected both entities. War resulted. Israel won, but Egypt and Jordan held smaller areas of Gaza and the West Bank, respectively, which they annexed. So much for Pan Arabism hey! Sovereignty lies in the will of the people. Corrupt regimes annexing territory and war shouldn't change that. PK I suspect if the Arabs had won in 1948 you would use the UN resolutions to justify continuing Jewish attempts to gain sovereign control of their state. The same logic applies to the Palestinians. Gaza wasn't created by the Egyptians. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 Yes, we all know about the partition. It's my understanding that Gaza was seen as a safe enclave for refugees from the 1948 conflict started by the AL. My point still stands that had the AL concentrated on consolidating land for the Palestinians things probably would have turned out very differently. But they chose war instead. You reap what you sow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RecklessAbandon Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Aysenur Ezgi Eyg: Israel says 'highly likely' IDF killed US-Turkish protester - BBC News "Tuesday's release of findings concluded it was "highly likely that she was hit indirectly and unintentionally by IDF fire which was not aimed at her, but aimed at the key instigator of the riot." So to be clear, the IDF were firing live rounds into a group of people with such poor aim or in such an indiscriminate manner that they hit an innocent protester? And is shooting live rounds at protesters the best way to stop a protest? "In its statement, the IDF said the "incident" had taken place during "a violent riot in which dozens of Palestinian suspects burned tires and hurled rocks toward security forces at the Beita Junction." Again, is shooting live rounds at people throwing stones at you the appropriate response? "But the protest group which Ms Eygi had been with at the time of the demonstration dismissed claims it threw rocks at Israeli soldiers, saying such assertions were “false”. They said their protest had been peaceful. Ms Eygi had been a member of the International Solidarity Movement (ISM), a pro-Palestinian organisation which takes part in weekly demonstrations at Beita against Israeli settlements." This suggests that maybe she was a target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RecklessAbandon Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Israeli strike in Gaza humanitarian zone kills 19 - health ministry - BBC News Not a great look for the IDF and the Israeli government. "You have to leave your homes and go to the safe zones so we can bomb them to get Hamas" "But now you are bombing the safe zones!" "Erm....Hamas" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RecklessAbandon Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 Israel Gaza: UN says Israeli air strike killed six of its staff - BBC News "The UN agency for Palestinian refugees (Unrwa) says six of its employees have been killed in an Israeli air strike on a school it runs in central Gaza. Gaza's Hamas-run Civil Defence agency said a total of 18 people were killed in Wednesday’s strike on al-Jaouni school in Nuseirat refugee camp, which is being used as a shelter by thousands of displaced Palestinians. Israel's military said it carried out a “precise strike on terrorists” planning attacks from the school, and that it had taken measures to avoid harm to civilians. UN Secretary General António Guterres condemned the strike, saying: “What’s happening in Gaza is totally unacceptable.” “These dramatic violations of international humanitarian law need to stop now,” he wrote on X, formerly Twitter, external. Unrwa said the attack marked "the highest death toll among our staff in a single incident" since the start of the war between Israel and Hamas in October. It also noted that it was the fifth time the school had been hit over the past 11 months. In July, 16 people were reportedly killed in a strike which the Israeli military said had targeted several structures at the school used by Hamas fighters." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 That's quite the story coming out of Lebanon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RecklessAbandon Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 Dozens of Hezbollah members reportedly hurt by exploding pagers - BBC News Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 3 minutes ago, RecklessAbandon said: Dozens of Hezbollah members reportedly hurt by exploding pagers - BBC News That's brilliant to be fair. Playing the long game there 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RecklessAbandon Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 2 minutes ago, thommo2010 said: That's brilliant to be fair. Playing the long game there AH yes, weaponising "every day items". The Russians did that in Afghanistan, dropping bomblets that looked like dolls so kids would pick them up (apparently they have picked the practice up again since 2022 in Ukraine). I wonder how that sits with the Geneva Convention (which Israel has a very iffy relationship with at the best of times). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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