Israel vs. the rest of the world?

[Ham_N_Eggs]

7 hours ago, Chinahand said:

Oh great a video with Allahu Akbar being shouted as a tyrannical regime attacks a democracy.

And the woke support this. Sad. 

"the woke support this", and with that one little phrase you've lost any respect I may have held for you. 

[P.K.]

10 hours ago, HeliX said:

So Israel is occupying Lebanon and Lebanon has a right to defend itself, we're agreed.

So it is just 14 sq miles!

Pathetic...

Especially as it's in an area that seems to have never had proper demarcation.

That "justifies" Hezbollah firing rockets at Israel not.

It's as stupid as your single state "solution"...

Edited October 2, 2024 by P.K.

[HeliX]

2 hours ago, P.K. said:

So it is just 14 sq miles!

Pathetic...

Especially as it's in an area that seems to have never had proper demarcation.

That "justifies" Hezbollah firing rockets at Israel not.

It's as stupid as your single state "solution"...

There isn't a clause in international law that permits occupying someone else's territory as long as it's strategic, or as long as it's only a small bit. You will excuse any blatantly illegal behaviour by Israel and God only knows why.

[P.K.]

32 minutes ago, HeliX said:

There isn't a clause in international law that permits occupying someone else's territory as long as it's strategic, or as long as it's only a small bit. You will excuse any blatantly illegal behaviour by Israel and God only knows why.

Golan is highly strategic in a westward direction and the Syrians can't be trusted holding it. The UN recognise this hence the UNDOF.

You're going to have to do a lot better than that and the Shebaa Farms to justify Hezbollah trying to murder Israeli civilians from Lebanon...

[HeliX]

16 minutes ago, P.K. said:

Golan is highly strategic in a westward direction and the Syrians can't be trusted holding it. The UN recognise this hence the UNDOF.

You're going to have to do a lot better than that and the Shebaa Farms to justify Hezbollah trying to murder Israeli civilians from Lebanon...

Eastern Ukraine is highly strategic.

I wasn't justifying anything of the sort, yet again you try to distort the conversation. Israel does not have a right to defence against places it is occupying, therefore Israel's 8000 cross border attacks are aggression and escalation.

Edited October 2, 2024 by HeliX

[The Phantom]

4 hours ago, Ham_N_Eggs said:

"the woke support this", and with that one little phrase you've lost any respect I may have held for you. 

It's true though.  There is another 'vigil for Gaza' this weekend and there is only really one demographic attending. 

Seems to be few vigils for Israel.  You know that place that keeps on getting attacked and is defending itself?  Looking at some of the tunnel systems discovered in Lebanon, Hez were planning on a raid in a very similar vein as the Ham one in October. 

Iran has made a pretty bad move overnight.  They are going to get absolutely smashed by the Israelis.  You'd think it would be obvious to not poke that already angry bear. 

[HeliX]

19 minutes ago, The Phantom said:

There is another 'vigil for Gaza' this weekend and there is only really one demographic attending. 

Seems to be few vigils for Israel.

Maybe because one of those groups is being killed in the tens of thousands,  and displaced and starved in the millions?

Also, just as the context has now been removed for some reason, the "the woke support this" wasn't about peace in Gaza, it was about Iran striking Israel. Which the "woke" do not support, actually. It was a ridiculous thing to say.

Edited October 2, 2024 by HeliX

[RecklessAbandon]

14 hours ago, P.K. said:

Quite so.

So what were the reasons for those Isreali incursions?

Deepening the land grab.

[RecklessAbandon]

1 hour ago, The Phantom said:

Seems to be few vigils for Israel. 

Committing genocide, committing war crimes and ignoring the pleas of the international community to stop will erode "good will" for a gonverment hell bent on wiping out a civilian population as part of a wider land grab.

[P.K.]

1 hour ago, HeliX said:

Eastern Ukraine is highly strategic.

I wasn't justifying anything of the sort, yet again you try to distort the conversation. Israel does not have a right to defence against places it is occupying, therefore Israel's 8000 cross border attacks are aggression and escalation.

Does not make sense.

These 8,000 cross border attacks as reported by Al Jazeera were they met by the Lebanese military?

[RecklessAbandon]

[The Phantom]

2 minutes ago, RecklessAbandon said:

Committing genocide, committing war crimes and ignoring the pleas of the international community to stop will erode "good will" for a gonverment hell bent on wiping out a civilian population as part of a wider land grab.

Could say that minus the land grab for either side. 

Terrorist attacks on fesitival goers, hostage taking and random missile attacks on civilians are all ok if the victims are Jewish? 

[HeliX]

1 minute ago, The Phantom said:

Could say that minus the land grab for either side. 

Terrorist attacks on fesitival goers, hostage taking and random missile attacks on civilians are all ok if the victims are Jewish? 

Has anyone made any suggestion even close to that second sentence? No. Have multiple people in this thread suggested that 40k dead civilians is probably OK because "oopsie, war casualties"? Yes.

[Mr. Sausages]

13 hours ago, Chinahand said:

 

And the woke support this. Sad. 

Donald Trump is in the house.

[The Phantom]

9 minutes ago, HeliX said:

Has anyone made any suggestion even close to that second sentence? No. Have multiple people in this thread suggested that 40k dead civilians is probably OK because "oopsie, war casualties"? Yes.

I've made it clear on here I'm no fan of Israelis either. 

But there are certain unalienable truths in this world.  One of them is you don't fuck with Israel. 

It's not fair, I know. 

If Ham & Hez didn't instigate the most recent attacks, there wouldn't be 40k oopsie war casualties.