Israel vs. the rest of the world?

[Apple]

9 hours ago, HeliX said:

Because it was never about retrieving the hostages.

I didn't expect that. So what comes next ? 

 

[HeliX]

26 minutes ago, Apple said:

I didn't expect that. So what comes next ? 

 

Trump gives Netanyahu carte blanche to settle the West Bank, Gaza is more or less inhabitable already, no western country has the morals to do anything about either.

[RecklessAbandon]

Israel - with the support of the West (and the oil/gas industries in the West) - will continue to pound Gaza and other strategic locations in the area.

Millions will continue to either die or be displaced (famine and wide spread disease will ensue in that population, thinning them out further.

Israel will then "claim" territory held as a "security" measure while settlements and buildings will just "magically" appear.

The UN and other nations will look in "horror" but do nothing, even as their peace keepers are opening and unashamedly attacked.

 

[RecklessAbandon]

Behind Israel’s ‘end game’ for Gaza: Theft of offshore gas reserves - International Action Center

Gaza Marine - Wikipedia

Hmmm was it all about something other than security all along?

[P.K.]

On 11/14/2024 at 9:30 AM, HeliX said:

Trump gives Netanyahu carte blanche to settle the West Bank, Gaza is more or less inhabitable already, no western country has the morals to do anything about either.

Don't blame the Western Countries.

First and foremost the blame for the whole sorry mess rests with the Arab League.

They made no effort whatsoever to assist the Palestinian Arabs in forming a state of their own. Instead on the declaration of the State of Israel the Arab League consisting of Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon and a contingent from Saudi Arabia all invaded the territory. Their objective was the destruction of the State of Israel so they could carve the territory up amongst themselves.

Surprisingly, seeing how outnumbered they were, the Israelis prevailed. They beat back the invaders and ended up overrunning the Negev Desert up to the Egypt-Palestine border. Excluding the Egyptian "safe haven" of Gaza.

When the conflict ended there was still ample opportunity for the Arab League to help create a Palestinian State. But as it simply didn't fit with their agenda they did nothing.

That's how the opportunity for a Palestinian State was essentially "lost" and became the status quo. As we all know the Arab League didn't give up on their original plan. With no Palestinian State to get in the way they tried again and again to destroy the State of Israel.

Fail...

[HeliX]

5 hours ago, P.K. said:

Don't blame the Western Countries.

First and foremost the blame for the whole sorry mess rests with the Arab League.

They made no effort whatsoever to assist the Palestinian Arabs in forming a state of their own. Instead on the declaration of the State of Israel the Arab League consisting of Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon and a contingent from Saudi Arabia all invaded the territory. Their objective was the destruction of the State of Israel so they could carve the territory up amongst themselves.

Surprisingly, seeing how outnumbered they were, the Israelis prevailed. They beat back the invaders and ended up overrunning the Negev Desert up to the Egypt-Palestine border. Excluding the Egyptian "safe haven" of Gaza.

When the conflict ended there was still ample opportunity for the Arab League to help create a Palestinian State. But as it simply didn't fit with their agenda they did nothing.

That's how the opportunity for a Palestinian State was essentially "lost" and became the status quo. As we all know the Arab League didn't give up on their original plan. With no Palestinian State to get in the way they tried again and again to destroy the State of Israel.

Fail...

To apportion blame for something happening in 2024 you refuse to look at the present, and refuse to look back prior to 1948. Which is presumably helpful if you're trying to preserve your worldview, I suppose.

[P.K.]

16 hours ago, HeliX said:

To apportion blame for something happening in 2024 you refuse to look at the present, and refuse to look back prior to 1948. Which is presumably helpful if you're trying to preserve your worldview, I suppose.

@HeliX

That doesn't make sense...

[The Voice of Reason]

9 hours ago, P.K. said:

@HeliX

That doesn't make sense...

Ha! Now you know what it feels like.

[P.K.]

35 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said:

Ha! Now you know what it feels like.

Have to say I thought you had issues...

[Non-Believer]

Netanyahu and Gallant now subject of ICC arrest warrants.

[P.K.]

They'll probably be as bothered as Putin is...

[RecklessAbandon]

Will be interesting to see if this has any teeth to it.

[woolley]

10 hours ago, RecklessAbandon said:

Will be interesting to see if this has any teeth to it.

It's an empty gesture. When the chips are down, war is as total and as dirty as it's ever been. Well meaning statutes and institutions won't change that. We might as well recognise the fact.

[RecklessAbandon]

9 hours ago, woolley said:

It's an empty gesture. When the chips are down, war is as total and as dirty as it's ever been. Well meaning statutes and institutions won't change that. We might as well recognise the fact.

But its an important "empty" gesture.

The more international bodies the publicly acknowledge Israel's crimes, the more pressure can be brought on them to be held accountable.

[P.K.]

10 hours ago, woolley said:

It's an empty gesture. When the chips are down, war is as total and as dirty as it's ever been. Well meaning statutes and institutions won't change that. We might as well recognise the fact.

I wonder if it's down to how anti-Israel the UN General Assembly is?

After all, this year "Palestine" was ridiculously recognised as a Sovereign State by 146 of the member states which is 75% of the total. The words "wind" and "pissing" come to mind here as the US, Israels main backer, voted against the motion...