MUA replacing old car charging points

[Tinpot]

Public EV charging points ready for the scrap heap.

Seems slightly against the eco principles of an EV of these things need replacing all the time.

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/manx-utilities-announces-plans-to-upgrade-electric-vehicle-charging-network

[Moghrey Mie]

The company Pod Point has withdrawn from the market. So we need a new provider and an upgrade.

[Passing Time]

23 minutes ago, Moghrey Mie said:

The company Pod Point has withdrawn from the market. So we need a new provider and an upgrade.

Or just forget it and stick with petrol/diesel…

[Manxman1234]

Again tax payers including those on low income paying for the rich to have their electric charge points upgraded 

[A fool and his money.....]

1 hour ago, Tinpot said:

 

Seems slightly against the eco principles of an EV of these things need replacing all the time.

Although completely with the principles of EV's that the manufacturing process is completely ignored when incentivising ownership.

You could buy a new EV every year for five years and pay much less road tax in that time than if you'd owned a twenty year old car throughout. 

I wonder which one would have the lower environmental impact? Doesn't matter, as ever tax breaks are only for those who can afford it.

 

[Banker]

8 minutes ago, A fool and his money..... said:

Although completely with the principles of EV's that the manufacturing process is completely ignored when incentivising ownership.

You could buy a new EV every year for five years and pay much less road tax in that time than if you'd owned a twenty year old car throughout. 

I wonder which one would have the lower environmental impact? Doesn't matter, as ever tax breaks are only for those who can afford it.

 

Hopefully new labour government will address the anomalies in road taxes.

[Non-Believer]

Our short-life, throwaway, consumer-driven economy is completely at odds with any drive for sustainability.

Nobody ever asks the cost of designing, building (including the resource and manufacturing energy costs) of these short-lived commodities (to include shite designs of cars and engines) that we glibly toss aside in favour of the latest fad.

If we were serious about sustainability, we'd be building things to last and be repairable, thus saving energy and resources.

[WTF]

25 minutes ago, A fool and his money..... said:

Although completely with the principles of EV's that the manufacturing process is completely ignored when incentivising ownership.

You could buy a new EV every year for five years and pay much less road tax in that time than if you'd owned a twenty year old car throughout. 

I wonder which one would have the lower environmental impact? Doesn't matter, as ever tax breaks are only for those who can afford it.

 

the twenty year old car will have the lower impact , as it was built 20 years ago and has kept going so no replacement was required , the EV on the other hand has yet to prove it can last 20 years and then  you have all the nasty lithium to be mined to replace the batteries every 5? years ( 5 years is a guess but the batteries don't last 20 years )  

[forestboy]

24 minutes ago, Banker said:

Hopefully new labour government will address the anomalies in road taxes.

Wish our lot of hopeless politicians would. 

[Two-lane]

41 minutes ago, A fool and his money..... said:

buy a new EV every year for five years and pay much less road tax in that time

Road tax is not related to the cost of anything - it is just a number decided by politicians.

If somehow, magically, everyone now had an electric car, the road tax would be astronomical. Not only would the gov. need the taxes it already imposes, it would also need a fair amount of money to support the infrastructure for electric cars - e.g. where do people who live in flats charge their cars?

[Tinpot]

38 minutes ago, Banker said:

Hopefully new labour government will address the anomalies in road taxes.

Not just road tax.  Benefit in kind for company car owners is much lower on an EV as well.  It’s wrong 

[StCatherine]

2 hours ago, Moghrey Mie said:

The company Pod Point has withdrawn from the market. So we need a new provider and an upgrade.

This has been known since at least January. The way they have pushed it as planned upgrade is laughable. They seem to have been sold this lot on a jolly / fact finding trip to Dundee. Was there a tender exercise anywhere ? 

[A fool and his money.....]

2 hours ago, Banker said:

Hopefully new labour government will address the anomalies in road taxes.

Not on the IOM they won't.

[Non-Believer]

3 hours ago, Two-lane said:

Road tax is not related to the cost of anything

It is.

It is closely related to the pensions deficit for one thing.

[Kopek]

most ev car designs seem to based on these 'beautiful' ? behemoths???

chris r would definitely want them on the prom??? 😁