Isle of Man Recycling nonsense debunked

[The Phantom]

2 minutes ago, Banker said:

The courier 

Has by coincidence just stopped the traditional deliveries round my estate.  Because they can't get any delivery boys (or girls) anymore apparently. 

[Andy Onchan]

3 minutes ago, Tinpot said:

Why would they bother separating the small amount of newspaper from all the other paper to do that.

Just lob it in the EFW plant and be done with it.

Not necessarily disagreeing with you, just saying that there is a use for newspaper on-Island and a composting facility that it could recycle it without cost to the taxpayer. It doesn't need to be transported off-Island or a shit load of money for recycling. Anyway, newspaper that gets shoved through our letterbox gets dealt with in the same manner..... it goes for composting. Why waste perfectly good material when you don't have to.

Plastics are the issue. That should definitely go in the EFW.    

[Tinpot]

13 minutes ago, The Phantom said:

Has by coincidence just stopped the traditional deliveries round my estate.  Because they can't get any delivery boys (or girls) anymore apparently. 

Loads of places don’t get them anymore.  I don’t know how they still get away with selling advertising in it.  Do they still claim it’s delivered to every house?  I haven’t seen one for years.

[Fred the shred]

I read it online, that is the deaths.

[cissolt]

2 hours ago, Kopek said:

Douglas still collect paper kerbside, maybe to the EFW?

I thought Douglas ships it across with the recycle collect stuff?  Still find it baffling that shipping stuff all over the UK is in any way green.

[Tinpot]

4 minutes ago, cissolt said:

I thought Douglas ships it across with the recycle collect stuff?  Still find it baffling that shipping stuff all over the UK is in any way green.

It isn’t.

[CATHYJAY]

3 hours ago, The Phantom said:

Much as I would like to like the idea, I've always been very skeptical about the recycling here.  Unless it can actually be done here on Island, I can only assume that the extra carbons released from picking it up, shipping it and then transporting it to a recycling plant wouldn't net off against the perceived environmental benefits.  Unfortunately there doesn't really seem to be much available data to review to consider the options. 

But hey, people can make money off the Green Scheme, irrespective of whether there is evidence that it is Greener.  It might even be ultimately more polluting than just burning or landfilling it. 

The best option is really just trying to reduce the amount of waste you create.   It's a shame beer doesn't come in cartons. 

I'm with you on the beer idea.

[CATHYJAY]

3 hours ago, Tinpot said:

Its a shame beer doesn't come on prescription, but that is a different thread.

If only!

[Gladys]

25 minutes ago, cissolt said:

I thought Douglas ships it across with the recycle collect stuff?  Still find it baffling that shipping stuff all over the UK is in any way green.

The boat sails anyway and once in the UK, is it any different to the journeys taken by UK based waste disposal authorities to the recycling facilities? 

[Jarndyce]

3 hours ago, Tinpot said:

It been obvious for years.  I wonder how much time and fuel people have wasting thinking they were doing the right thing?

You should have shared your wisdom with the "powers that be" - think of all that time and fuel saved, if you'd only spoken up years ago...

Edited October 31, 2024 by Jarndyce

[Two-lane]

22 minutes ago, Gladys said:

The boat sails anyway and once in the UK, is it any different to the journeys taken by UK based waste disposal authorities to the recycling facilities? 

"The move will save the Department of Infrastructure’s Waste Management division between £35,000 and £50,000 each year and support the cross-Government drive to protect public funds. "

One might also consider what happens to paper that was sent for recycling. If it was used to create something useful, that useful thing will no longer be created.

And, as it is nearly Friday night:- They are saving £35,000 per year - how much are they loosing by not charging for car parking?

[Tinpot]

16 minutes ago, Jarndyce said:

You should have shared your wisdom with the "powers that be" - think of all that time and fuel saved, if you'd only spoken up years ago...

I did, nobody listened.  All got sucked in by the green nonsense and used to drive their cars to the grandstand with a few newspapers in the boot to throw in a big plastic bin that came here on a boat, thinking that shipping the paper back to the UK by van, ferry and lorry to go into a hugely power hungry recycling plant with diesel vehicles everywhere was saving the world.

madness

[Gladys]

5 minutes ago, Two-lane said:

"The move will save the Department of Infrastructure’s Waste Management division between £35,000 and £50,000 each year and support the cross-Government drive to protect public funds. "

One might also consider what happens to paper that was sent for recycling. If it was used to create something useful, that useful thing will no longer be created.

And, as it is nearly Friday night:- They are saving £35,000 per year - how much are they loosing by not charging for car parking?

My reply was in response to the green impact of transportation, but as you say the saving is comparatively miniscule and much less than the loss of car parking income, as you say.   

I am sure there will be enough paper for recycling in the UK that the lack of our contribution will not impact on useful things

 

[Utah 01]

3 hours ago, Banker said:

The courier 

By eck! Thees lucky, lad! Aven't seen a Courier down my road for well over 18 months.

[Utah 01]

4 hours ago, Tinpot said:

imagine it applies the same to everything else by the time we ship it away

No need to 'imagine'; it's all part of the eco-loon scam.  Take a look just like the thousands of tons of waste 'we' ship out to India every year but that's OK, 'we're' saving our bit of the planet while other parts can die.