Young people on long term mental health sickness leave upsetting!

[Max Power]

Is this more an awareness issue, i.e. parents worried, kids playing up to get time off, or a genuine epidemic of mental health issues caused by today's lifestyle? 

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/reasons-for-long-term-sickness-changing-says-treasury-minister/

I'd have done almost anything to be kept away from school, I absolutely hated being there!

[Passing Time]

The constant excuse of mental health issues is appalling. Those that actually need help often get overlooked by the shysters crying wolf

[Tinpot]

8 minutes ago, Passing Time said:

The constant excuse of mental health issues is appalling. Those that actually need help often get overlooked by the shysters crying wolf

You have close hand experience of both then?  How do you identify a shyster who is crying wolf exactly?

[HeliX]

46 minutes ago, Max Power said:

or a genuine epidemic of mental health issues caused by today's lifestyle? 

More likely genuine issues caused by everything being shit all the time?

[Tinpot]

45 minutes ago, Max Power said:

Is this more an awareness issue, i.e. parents worried, kids playing up to get time off, or a genuine epidemic of mental health issues caused by today's lifestyle? 

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/reasons-for-long-term-sickness-changing-says-treasury-minister/

I'd have done almost anything to be kept away from school, I absolutely hated being there!

I would say a bit of each unfortunately.

The stresses and pressures on young people these days are completely different to in years gone by.  I am not saying tougher or easier, but completely different and many of the older generations are incapable of understanding those issues or knowing how to deal with them, as highlighted in the first reply to your thread.

It’s a tough world out there for young people.  Not as physically tough as it was in the past, but the mental challenges and pressures are very real and often misunderstood 

[Thefella]

47 minutes ago, Max Power said:

Is this more an awareness issue, i.e. parents worried, kids playing up to get time off, or a genuine epidemic of mental health issues caused by today's lifestyle? 

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/reasons-for-long-term-sickness-changing-says-treasury-minister/

I'd have done almost anything to be kept away from school, I absolutely hated being there!

Here’s an idea. Maybe closing the borders and isolating kids at home while their parents had to do their jobs from another room and providing them with absolutely no social support or ability to interact with their friends and relatives wasn’t such a great idea after all? Generation covid kids seem to be very unwell. 

[Tinpot]

3 minutes ago, Thefella said:

Here’s an idea. Maybe closing the borders and isolating kids at home while their parents had to do their jobs from another room and providing them with absolutely no social support or ability to interact with their friends and relatives wasn’t such a great idea after all? Generation covid kids seem to be very unwell. 

While I agree, I doubt many of the kids young enough to be impacted by the pandemic have filtered through to full time employment yet.

[Thefella]

Just now, Tinpot said:

While I agree, I doubt many of the kids young enough to be impacted by the pandemic have filtered through to full time employment yet.

So you don’t think anyone who was 15/16 in 2020 is not now 19/20 and in full time employment? 

[Gladys]

2 minutes ago, Tinpot said:

I would say a bit of each unfortunately.

The stresses and pressures on young people these days are completely different to in years gone by.  I am not saying tougher or easier, but completely different and many of the older generations are incapable of understanding those issues or knowing how to deal with them, as highlighted in the first reply to your thread.

It’s a tough world out there for young people.  Not as physically tough as it was in the past, but the mental challenges and pressures are very real and often misunderstood 

I don't think the comments were solely about young people.  I don't pretend to know why there are so many mental health issues now, but I do know the support here is inadequate.  Someone better qualified than would know, but it does strike me that without intervention at an early stage, mental health deteriorates almost beyond cure.   

I don't know why, but it seems that resilience is a factor, learning those little tricks to get back on an even keel, and without them the situation becomes more chronic. 

 

[Tinpot]

13 minutes ago, Gladys said:

I don't think the comments were solely about young people.  I don't pretend to know why there are so many mental health issues now, but I do know the support here is inadequate.  Someone better qualified than would know, but it does strike me that without intervention at an early stage, mental health deteriorates almost beyond cure.   

I don't know why, but it seems that resilience is a factor, learning those little tricks to get back on an even keel, and without them the situation becomes more chronic. 

 

The article, the interview and this thread are all specifically about younger people 🤷‍♂️

[Tinpot]

16 minutes ago, Thefella said:

So you don’t think anyone who was 15/16 in 2020 is not now 19/20 and in full time employment? 

I said kids young enough to be impacted.  Personally I would think that by 15/16 people have figured out a lot of their social skills etc.

Not disagreeing with you.  If anything the real impact of the pandemic on young adults mental health and resilience hasn’t hit home yet.  Give it another 5-15 years when the kids who were just starting nursery or at infants and junior school at the time become adults to see the real impact of that shit show.

[Gladys]

13 minutes ago, Tinpot said:

The article, the interview and this thread are all specifically about younger people 🤷‍♂️

It was the Mannin Line, which I listened to in full,  and I took his comments about helping them BACK into the workplace as being wider than just teenagers.  The focus on mental health needs to cover everyone. 

[Manx Bean]

Unfortunately, this situation is very much one our own making. The digital age has a lot to be held to account for. 
 

When I was a kid I hadn’t even heard of stress. We went to school. We played outside all the time, come rain or shine. If we became upset over something we were told to grow up and get on with it, and we did.

I didn’t get a say in what clothes I wore until I was at least 10. And I didn’t care. 
 

Today..well, it’s fucked up.

[The Voice of Reason]

45 minutes ago, Passing Time said:

The constant excuse of mental health issues is appalling. Those that actually need help often get overlooked by the shysters crying wolf

Agreed. I resisted going on FB for a long time but had to eventually realise there is a lot of local knowledge going on ( business opening times etc) there which you wouldn’t get anywhere else.

Anyway,a large percentage of posters say I have an lb  who had ADHD I didn’t know what that meant  until it was explained to me that lb meant little boy , similar to lg I guess) and who has ADHD ( again has to look that up) and people should make allowances for their dreadful behaviour.

No doubt there are children who do genuinely suffer from ADHD, but it seems to be a fad and some sort of excuse for bad behaviour ( “ they are on the spectrum “ what on earth does that mean?)

Apologies in advance to those who have a genuine diagnosis of the condition. It shouldn’t be diluted by those wishing to explain away their child’s bad behaviour.

[Non-Believer]

Where's Hi Vibes when you need him/her?

Young people with psychological issues caused by the prospect of having to work, being required to turn up at their place of employment on time, preferably not under the influence of drink or drugs, do some work whilst they're actually there instead of playing on their phones and actually having to remain at their workplace until their due finish time.

All just too far much for them... 😜