Young people on long term mental health sickness leave upsetting!

[Andy Onchan]

10 minutes ago, AcousticallyChallenged said:

Social media is very much designed to be addictive.

They’ve refined and distilled what works to make it hit all of the right brain receptors to keep you scrolling.

Kids have no chance really. 

They have a choice.... but haven't yet worked out how to use it so that they can live without it and still live a 'normal' life. 

[Manx Bean]

1 hour ago, Tinpot said:

What a load of crap.

I’m talking from a lot of personal experience actually. 

[HeliX]

13 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said:

They have a choice.... but haven't yet worked out how to use it so that they can live without it and still live a 'normal' life. 

Youngsters can't live a normal life without social media while all their peers are on social media.

[RecklessAbandon]

15 minutes ago, Passing Time said:

Spectacularly proving that you are part of the problem...well done you

The lack of self awareness in every post you make on this subject is staggering.

[Jarndyce]

47 minutes ago, Banker said:

There’s a lot of people claiming sickness benefits, young & old. There’s no doubt that a lot of them just don’t want to work, many are able to walk 1/2 miles to collect sickness benefits and then go to nags head, market , Albert etc etc . Many are able to work but just don’t want to & not interested in anything to help them get back to work.

How do you know?   Can you demonstrate this is anything more than jaundiced opinion?

30 minutes ago, Moghrey Mie said:

The most recent figures I can find are these.

'As of 31 March 2021, 1,020 people were claiming Employed Person’s Allowance, 1,289 people in receipt of the Retirement Pension were claiming Income Support, along with 1,886 registered as sick, 685 people registered as looking for work and 280 lone parents or widows under pension age were claiming Income Support.' (…)

The Isle of Man in Numbers

1,886 - is that “many”?   Are they really sick, ie would they pass the “Dr Banker” test?

Edited November 1, 2024 by Jarndyce
Typo

[Andy Onchan]

6 minutes ago, HeliX said:

Youngsters can't live a normal life without social media while all their peers are on social media.

And that's why they'll be weaned off it by legislation in one form or another by gov.

[Weliveinhope]

1 hour ago, RecklessAbandon said:

Imagine being 16, told that you will never own a home unless someone else invests a large sum of money on your behalf, you will have to work for the next 47-57 years (depending on what sector you end up in and the ever increasing age of retirement), people who are older than you who enjoyed freedom of movement around Europe voted to take it away from you, there is every chance that University will place you in debt for the next 20 years, old farts want to force you to sign up to the army for compulsory conscription for 2 years, the internet is constantly telling you that you are fat, etc.

All the while the generations before them are sneering at them for some reason be it the past times they enjoy or the way they talk to them, ignoring the fact this happens with every generation before it.

I dont think your average 16 year old is remotely stressing over not being able to afford a house or what age they will be working to. Its such a difficult subject. A lot of us were brought up in an age where only the most serious mental health issues were diagnosed and 'treated' by putting you in some sort of unit or drugging you up to the eyeballs. Nowadays its a minefield. Mental health issues cover an almost infinite spectrum, and todays generation are conditioned differently. We all have bad days, but thats generally not a mental health issue, but as a previous poster said a lot of people need a label for not feeling right. My son asked me a few months ago if he could use our health cover to get a test for ADHD as his friend told him he was 'riddled!' 

And without doubt an alarmingly high percentage will be using the mental health card to their advantage, whether it be in the courts, for financial gains or to wag school - dont kid yourself that this number wont be astronomical.

I have zero idea what the answer is, but its completely out of control and will certainly not end well.

 

Edited November 1, 2024 by Weliveinhope

[Barlow]

I suggest that a good propertion of the rise in mental health issues is not unrelated to the increasing use over the past couple of decades of the erm, 'harmless' drug cannabis. 

[AcousticallyChallenged]

10 minutes ago, Weliveinhope said:

My son asked me a few months ago if he could use our health cover to get a test for ADHD as his friend told him he was 'riddled!

It’s not unusual for parents to figure out they also have it when their kids get diagnosed. Parents end up with a bit of an “oh shit” moment when they realise what isn’t normal. 

11 minutes ago, Weliveinhope said:

We all have bad days, but thats generally not a mental health issue, but as a previous poster said a lot of people need a label for not feeling right.

It’s generally not about whether you feel “right”. It’s about identifying something that impacts your life on a daily basis.

13 minutes ago, Weliveinhope said:

A lot of us were brought up in an age where only the most serious mental health issues were diagnosed and 'treated' by putting you in some sort of unit or drugging you up to the eyeballs.

All that means is that the less serious ones were ignored or learned to hide it. Or written off as eccentrics.

[RecklessAbandon]

36 minutes ago, Barlow said:

I suggest that a good propertion of the rise in mental health issues is not unrelated to the increasing use over the past couple of decades of the erm, 'harmless' drug cannabis. 

Is this based on your years of research and documented studies in this field or is this based on your Facebook University degree?

[Tinpot]

3 hours ago, Passing Time said:

Imagine having to grow a pair and deal with life's problems like an adult instead of whining on about how difficult it is for them. We have all had difficulties in our lives but just got on with it. In your comments above you have clearly outlined the so called mental health myth

Some of us are bright enough to have had difficulties in our lives decades ago, done the “just got on with it” and still realise that life now for youngsters is very different and that just doesn't cut it in the modern world.

We are also bright enough and life experienced enough to realise that “just getting in with it” despite being the only option available at the time wasn’t actually the best option.  If anything it’s led to a generation of grumpy old men with no understanding of the world in 2024 and the challenges young people face.

You and a couple of others on here seem to be prime examples.  Maybe some counselling would help get to the bottom of you issues and the harm that was done by “just getting on with it”

 

Edited November 1, 2024 by Tinpot

[Tinpot]

1 hour ago, Banker said:

many are able to walk 1/2 miles to collect sickness benefits and then go to nags head, market , Albert etc et

What on earth has that got to do with if someone is fit to work or not?

Clueless,

[Tinpot]

1 hour ago, Manx Bean said:

I’m talking from a lot of personal experience actually. 

Enough to justify the use of the word “all”?

[Tinpot]

1 hour ago, Barlow said:

I suggest that a good propertion of the rise in mental health issues is not unrelated to the increasing use over the past couple of decades of the erm, 'harmless' drug cannabis. 

The one that’s used as a treatment for mental health issues? 

[Jarndyce]

7 minutes ago, Tinpot said:

The one that’s used as a treatment for mental health issues?

No.