Young people on long term mental health sickness leave upsetting!

[Passing Time]

20 minutes ago, Tinpot said:

Some of us are bright enough to have had difficulties in our lives decades ago, done the “just got on with it” and still realise that life now for youngsters is very different and that just cut it in the modern world.

We are also bright enough and life experienced enough to realise that “just getting in with it” despite being the only option available at the time wasn’t actually the best option.  If anything it’s led to a generation of grumpy old men with no understanding of the world in 2024 and the challenges young people face.

You and a couple of others on here seem to be prime examples.  Maybe some counselling would help get to the bottom of you issues and the harm that was done by “just getting on with it”

 

thankfully unlike you and a few others, I don't have issues. But thanks for caring...

[Passing Time]

2 hours ago, AcousticallyChallenged said:

I’ve seen people with no arms fly a plane.

Does that mean that we should expect all those with limb differences to get on with it and achieve the same levels?

what on earth are you babbling on about?

[Barlow]

  

23 minutes ago, Tinpot said:

The one that’s used as a treatment for mental health issues? 

 

 

Hey, that there LSD stuff has been shown to be beneficial for certain types of mental health issues.

It must be safe, let's all get tripping.

Edited November 1, 2024 by Barlow

[Tinpot]

4 minutes ago, Passing Time said:

thankfully unlike you and a few others, I don't have issues. But thanks for caring...

That reads like you think someone seeking support for their mental health is something they should be ashamed of, or something that others could use as an insult?

Or have I misinterpreted? 

[Passing Time]

Just now, Tinpot said:

That reads like you think someone seeking support for their mental health is something they should be ashamed of, or something that others could use as an insult?

Or have I misinterpreted? 

as usual, you've added your own slant on it. 

[Tinpot]

Just now, Passing Time said:

as usual, you've added your own slant on it. 

So what point  were you making, and who are the "few others"?

 

[Barlow]

  

50 minutes ago, RecklessAbandon said:

Is this based on your years of research and documented studies in this field or is this based on your Facebook University degree?

Well, I suppose it is years of research. Certainly observation in many and varied circumstance, much of that a couple of decades before Facebook, or indeed Manx Forums were even thought of.

 

 

 

Edited November 1, 2024 by Barlow

[The Voice of Reason]

2 hours ago, AcousticallyChallenged said:

I’ve seen people with no arms fly a plane.

Does that mean that we should expect all those with limb differences to get on with it and achieve the same levels?

Not sure what your point is here. I’ve seen fully limbed people fly a plane.

Flying a plane requires a certain aptitude , rather than a certain number of limbs

( assuming obviously that the controls have been modified to cater for those with limb differences)

[AcousticallyChallenged]

37 minutes ago, Passing Time said:

what on earth are you babbling on about?

You said people should “just get on with it” because you did.

I was just asking if that principle also works for other disabilities or illnesses too.

Maybe you’re onto something.

Or, maybe you’re just coming across as a curmudgeon. 

[AcousticallyChallenged]

8 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said:

Flying a plane requires a certain aptitude , rather than a certain number of limbs

( assuming obviously that the controls have been modified to cater for those with limb differences

Yes, exactly. Which is why one person’s view of “we just shut up and got on with it”, isn’t necessarily a particularly informed one. 

[Banker]

3 hours ago, Moghrey Mie said:

Numbers please.

Open your eyes & walk around town & you will see them , UK are launching schemes to get them back into work, benefits life is too easy for many.

[HeliX]

10 minutes ago, Banker said:

Open your eyes & walk around town & you will see them , UK are launching schemes to get them back into work, benefits life is too easy for many.

Between watching teachers from your house and walking round town trying to identify people on benefits it's a marvel you have time to post your drivel on here.

[thommo2010]

The mental health issues will never be resolved regardless of how many mental health workers you have. People seem to see Mental health workers as some sort of magic wand and once they are involved that's it all problems are gone. Unfortunately people need to take responsibility for their own lives and well being and yes whilst speaking to a professional can help ultimately the person needs to make changes to their life.

 

There are people out there with complex mental health issues that sadly will suffer forever with them then there are others who quite simply have no coping mechanism and the smallest inconvenience is seen as some huge issue   

[AcousticallyChallenged]

Of course, another aspect is that now, if you can’t pass your GCSEs, it’s much harder to get a job. 

It used to be that the kids who couldn’t cope with it would find apprenticeships and learn trades and crafts.

But, they need their academics in order to get into these apprenticeships and there are far fewer about anyway. 

[AcousticallyChallenged]

Just now, thommo2010 said:

The mental health issues will never be resolved regardless of how many mental health workers you have. People seem to see Mental health workers as some sort of magic wand and once they are involved that's it all problems are gone. Unfortunately people need to take responsibility for their own lives and well being and yes whilst speaking to a professional can help ultimately the person needs to make changes to their life.

 

There are people out there with complex mental health issues that sadly will suffer forever with them then there are others who quite simply have no coping mechanism and the smallest inconvenience is seen as some huge issue   

They don’t just lie on the big chair and blather. 

The mental health support workers are generally focused on equipping people to start making those changes and supporting them. Some people never had the opportunity to learn those coping mechanisms, and short of a time machine, teaching them now is the next best thing.

No magic wands, just pragmatic steps.