Legislative Council December 3rd

[Moghrey Mie]

Quiet day for LEGCO

https://www.tynwald.org.im/spfile?file=/business/bills/Bills/Charities-Registration-and-Regulation-(Amendment)-Bill-2024-explanatory-notes.pdf

[Fred the shred]

So Bill and his two cohorts have still not got any answers regarding their examination of how the loss of the Bishop’s vote would affect LegCo….this is ridiculous.   In the meantime does she vote or not ?     Tynwald have voted to withdraw it but LegCo is dragging its heels and instead having a report or examination as to any consequences this would cause in LegCo which they started before the Summer break and has now seemingly died a death.    The subject matter here is not the problem it is the fact that a committee of unelected people can stifle Tynwalds wishes.   Democracy at its finest….not.

[Moghrey Mie]

This bishop seems to be adopting the 'social worker angle' talking about drugs etc.

The Church of England should stick to preaching about god and keep out of politics. Give us a secular society.

How long before she asks for money for the upkeep of old draughty buildings under the guise of 'saving the planet'?

[Fred the shred]

I think social work was her background before she was called……. a lot of ladies entering the church seem to become disenchanted with retirement and go on to join the faithful as vicars some even get promoted to greater things.     It is more difficult these days to attract young people to take up religious teachings and so this manner of enrollment is becoming more prevalent.   

[Fred the shred]

The bigger issue for me though is how LegCo can scupper something that has been voted on and passed by Tynwald and not a word said about it, it stinks.

[Andy Onchan]

3 hours ago, Moghrey Mie said:

This bishop seems to be adopting the 'social worker angle' talking about drugs etc.

The Church of England should stick to preaching about god and keep out of politics. Give us a secular society.

How long before she asks for money for the upkeep of old draughty buildings under the guise of 'saving the planet'?

Check out her CV. She was a social worker!

[Kopek]

Thjere could be times when our Govt, ie. Comin, propose some legislation that is unpalatable to , we, the people and then the Legco oversight could be useful?

However, that would require a truly independent Legco and our current bunch are too dependent on the patronage of Comin???

[Roger Mexico]

17 hours ago, Fred the shred said:

I think social work was her background before she was called……. a lot of ladies entering the church seem to become disenchanted with retirement and go on to join the faithful as vicars some even get promoted to greater things.     It is more difficult these days to attract young people to take up religious teachings and so this manner of enrollment is becoming more prevalent.   

Well women couldn't become priests in the Church of England till 1994 and Hillas was born in 1966, so it's a bit unfair to complain she didn't go in at 21, when she couldn't.  Certainly older vocations seem more common nowadays among men and women, but it can't be a bad thing for people to have some experience in other roles before becoming ordained - we're always saying it's a good thing for politicians.

[Moghrey Mie]

It seems that several IOM charities have closed down since the new regulations came in.

It's good to see the Attorney General's Office is going to be easier to deal with than it has been.

https://www.gov.im/media/1386453/publicindex_latest-uploaded-211124_compressed.pdf

 

[Roger Mexico]

1 hour ago, Moghrey Mie said:

It seems that several IOM charities have closed down since the new regulations came in.

It's good to see the Attorney General's Office is going to be easier to deal with than it has been.

https://www.gov.im/media/1386453/publicindex_latest-uploaded-211124_compressed.pdf

 

I wondered  myself from the Bill's title, but I'm not sure that it will be.  As far as I can see this Bill looks more like them quietly trying to rectify a cock-up, than improve the situation for those trying to run charities.  All it seems to do is to allow the Attorney General to devolve certain administrative decisions to those of his staff who are working in the area.  Which suggests the decisions they have been making may have been technically illegal if they weren't all signed off personally by the AG.

There doesn't seem to be any change to the increased and complicated rules that charities have to follow - indeed there's the possibility that the situation may get even more confusing if different people in the AG's department produce different rulings.  And there doesn't seem to be any will to simplify things.  The Standing Committee on the Business and Functioning of the Legislative Council (known to its friends as STBFLC) is supposed to be carrying out a post-legislative scrutiny of the Charities Registration and Regulation Act 2019.  They took evidence over a year ago and a wide range of charities complained about a whole host of issues.  But when Juan Watterson asked how the review was going earlier this month, the Chair of it, August-Hanson, said they hadn't met since May and "Due to other priorities, Committee staff have not yet been in a position to begin drafting the report" and they don't seem to regard it with any sort of priority either.

[Moghrey Mie]

 They've started producing news bulletins with information for charities. That has filled a previous black hole where the Attorney General's Office is concerned.

https://www.gov.im/media/1385735/q3-bulletin-final.pdf