Topaz Posted August 13, 2004 Posted August 13, 2004 Not always just Christianity Stav , honey, How about this... remember the Knights Templars are todays Freemasons. Friday the 13th Jacques Demolay and the Knights Templar Both the number 13 and the day of the week Friday have had varied "reputations" throughout the centuries - sometimes considered to be holy and at other times considered to be unholy. In the Western world, the superstition linking Friday the 13th with being unlucky is primarily associated with the final Grand Master of the Knights Templar, Jacques Demolay, and the date of Friday, October the 13th, 1307 AD (Old Style - OS) In 1099 AD the Roman Catholic Church - via the now infamous bloody religious wars of the Christian Crusades - regained control over the holy city of Jerusalem. However, the lands surrounding Jerusalem were still in the hands of the Moslems. According to traditional versions of the story, a warrior order of the Roman Catholic Church eventually banded together that was (allegedly) for purposes of protecting Christian travelers on their way to the holy city of Jerusalem. The warrior order was officially recognized by the Roman Catholic Church in 1118 AD, and they were at that time provided with a headquarters building located on Mount Moriah. This building was located on a site traditionally thought to be the former Temple of King Solomon. Thus, the warrior order became known as the Knights of the Temple, or the Knights Templar. To make a very long (but incredibly interesting) story short, Jacques Demolay became the Grand Master of the Knights Templar in around 1293 AD During the two hundred years of their existence within the Roman Catholic Church, the Knights Templar had grown into a rather rich and powerful political force to be reckoned with. During Demolay's stay in office as Grand Master, the Templars had increasingly grown in disfavor with the current pope, Pope Clement V, and with the King of France, Phillip the Fair. Betrayal In 1307 AD the pope and the king arranged for the Templars to meet with them for a "friendly" convocation in Paris, France. Instead, Grand Master Jacques Demolay was arrested on Friday, October the 13th, 1307 AD (Old Style). Seven years later, in 1314 AD, Jacques DeMolay was burned at the stake for the crime of church heresy. Legend continues on that before Demolay died - he predicted to the king and pope that he would meet them both in heaven within the next year. Fact is... the king and the pope did die in the year 1314 AD. It is not known whether or not that Jacques DeMolay actually met up with these two rascals in heaven. Heresy As for the "heresy" surrounding the Knights Templar - I'd love the share the details with you. However... it's rather complicated and controversial - and I'm quite sure it would totally blow your mind. I will say that the "heresy" of the Templars was quite likely related to what might be called the integration or marriage of the "archetypal feminine" with the masculine Christian Trinity. (Was that vague and shrouded or what?) For more on the alleged heresy... you might, however, want to pick up a copy of Dan Brown's "Da Vinci Code." Oh yeah... the rather fantastical theories - purporting the Templars to be some sort of (in literal terms as we understand it today) secret Satanists and/or worshippers of an idol named Baphomet - are based on hoax and distorted conjecture. Oh, and I was born on Friday the 13th of October.
Tee Posted August 14, 2004 Posted August 14, 2004 Yesterday was quite a good day nowt went wrong infact everything went like clockwork
puddy Posted August 16, 2004 Posted August 16, 2004 I'm surprised I didn't realise it was Friday the 13th, I'm normally very superstitious and won't say the R word without touching wood, I won't make a sound at the Devil's Elbow and I even hold my breath when walking under scaffolding. Superstitiousness runs in the family, my grandparent's refused to live in a house numbered 13 many years ago and they had the house numbers on the estate changed so they could be number 14 instead. Anyway, Friday was a really great day.
Guest Rox Posted August 16, 2004 Posted August 16, 2004 I never knew you were supposed to be quiet going 'round the Devil's Elbow? It's no wonder I have such bad luck every time I go to Kirk Michael. :/ What's the story then? Anyone know?
Kelly Posted August 16, 2004 Posted August 16, 2004 I say black horses when I walk under a ladder. I'm not really sure why.
puddy Posted August 16, 2004 Posted August 16, 2004 The Devil's Elbow thing could have been a ploy by my parents to shut us up for a few seconds on a trip to Peel. Our schoolteachers must have loved it too, it was amazing how a coachload of noisy schoolkids could instantly become dead silent (except for the hard boys at the back who were so rock they also used to give the upsies to the Fairies when we crossed over the Fairy Bridge). I think that the superstition is because of the rocks at the Devil's Elbow, somebody must have once thought that there was a danger of a landslide if cars full of kids went past screaming and fighting.
Guest Rox Posted August 16, 2004 Posted August 16, 2004 It's the first time I've heard that... Thanks for the info..
manxbird Posted August 16, 2004 Posted August 16, 2004 What about origins of some other superstitions? I'd love to know why it's unlucky to go into a house by one door and leave by another. I know it's something to do with death and wondered if it's to do with bringing coffins into the house before the funeral. Does it only count for houses or other places like shops as well?
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