Uhtred

1 minute ago, TheTeapot said:

All our candidates fit into the useless bracket. You could argue Cregeen has been dangerous, having been given a senior role, but only through ineptitude rather than desire.

Within a matter of hours I’ll be on my way from Howard Quayle’s micro disaster zone to Boris Johnson’s macro equivalent, for what looks to be an extended stay. I shan’t miss the hustings/bollocks/disappointment and inevitably blackly comic new CoMin of the next couple of months. I’ve never been so utterly unmoved and disinterested in an impending election and its consequences. 

47 minutes ago, 747-400 said:

Better the devil you know I guess 🤷‍♂️

A very poor starting point for electing a national politician but no doubt the approach of many when in the polling booth. Especially in that god forsaken constituency.

On 8/26/2021 at 6:08 PM, TheTeapot said:

It is a frankly absurd situation where Jason Moorhouse is being openly talked of as the preferred candidate. But he is.

As I was told by a southside friend lately, ‘People will vote for useless to avoid voting for dangerous’. 

2 hours ago, quilp said:

Alistair Ramsay on a roll about the election process...

http://www.iomtoday.co.im/article.cfm?id=63261&headline=Alistair Ramsay: Sorting the sheep from the goats&sectionIs=news&searchyear=2021

He's not wrong. 

Indeed he isn’t - Ramsay’s analysis of the local political scene is consistently the best on offer and accurate 95% of the time. As this particular article shows. 

1 minute ago, Gladys said:

A good point to a degree, but if you don't think you are the best for the job, what would you do?  The candidates should abstain, IMHO,  as they have an interest in the matter. 

That would be the honourable thing to do. However…

2 hours ago, Declan said:

In the Moulton interview he hints that there are dark reasons why he can't go back to teaching. But that he can't talk about them. 

He must’ve been a housemaster in Slytherin.

4 hours ago, 747-400 said:

You may regret saying that 🤪

I was tempted to rebut that, but…this is Manx politics so….

4 hours ago, wrighty said:

I don’t think so.  These people (anti-vaxxers) are dangerous. 

Indeed they are which is why they tread a very fine line between the right to free speech and being dumped off this forum for the promulgation of genuinely dangerous propaganda. The mods take a more liberal line than I would.

47 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said:

Nice to see you’ve not lost your touch for reasoned argument.

I could out argue you whilst I was asleep sunshine; I simply choose not to bother because you’re a fatuous waste of time.

2 hours ago, Dr. Grumpy said:

Too closely allied to Howard Quayle (apparently).

That’s bad news. Anyone allied with that waster is to be doubted.

2 minutes ago, FatRoundMiddle said:

Bring back Howard.

No-one despairs that much.

I love it when these deranged flat earthers/vaccine deniers/lizard people/5G wankers put in an appearance; it’s bloody good fun reading the shit they devour and laughing out loud that they fall for this baseless hokum. Being a fairly unpleasant sod with zero empathy I enjoy a decent chance to mock these witless fucks and here we have another one. Bring it on. 

1 hour ago, Darkness Incarnate said:

And if he did have some integrity, all the times we've seen Howard himself making preposterous, blatantly untrue claims and idiotic statements of self righteousness you'd think David would show some integrity and intervene?

Oh no wait he's just the current CM's lapdog in the hopes that he can progress back onto the Gravy Train next administration and gun for the role of top-dog. 

"Yes Chief Minister"

"Oh I'm so so so sorry Chief Minister" 

"Do you need me to polish your shoes again Chief Minister?!!" 

"Do you need me to wax your back and legs again Chief Minister?!"

Very comprehensive reportage there but with one key omission…

…polish your shoes with my tongue…

6 hours ago, Gladys said:

…without a party political system that will give real scrutiny and accountability, these examples will persist. Granny-farming and parochial popularity contests will continue to deliver ineffective  politicians and the continued debacles that we are so familiar with. 

Totally correct. One of the principal fault lines running deeply through Manx politics (and ‘democracy’) summed up neatly Glad.

On 8/18/2021 at 9:46 PM, ian rush said:

Hooper is quite bright but seems blind spotted by his ties to a party of cranks

Dead right.

Just now, Ham_N_Eggs said:

Probably winding him up and he's not bright enough to understand. Let's not forget his one and only appearance at the COVID briefings. Putting him in as the chief minister would be madness.

Making him a Minister was madness. Appointing him CM would be suicidal. 

4 hours ago, NoTailT said:

I wish it were. Happened to me and two other people I know down here.

Cregeen is deluded. But if it’s true (and that’s a prominent if) that other Tynwald members have indeed told him that he’d be a good CM, then those members need to be taken to Spanish Head and invited to fly unaided. 

13 hours ago, NoTailT said:

Cregeen on the doorstep: "Do you think I'd make a good Chief Minister? Lots of my colleagues in the Keys think I will and are encouraging me to aim for jt."

Tell me that's the blackest of black comedy. Please.

14 hours ago, WTF said:

i predict we'll get a bunch of useless self serving cunts.

Well we do now have yet more form for mimicking the UK so yes, probably.

1 minute ago, Chef Raekwon said:

Would be great if one of the media outlets could do a big CM poll after the election just to get a feel for what public opinion is.  And more importantly how far away it is from who the MHKs actually end up voting in.

Take note Richard Butt. (We know you read this forum, not least because many contributors write with greater fluency and insight than the dullards penning your newspapers).

Just now, Ham_N_Eggs said:

I suspect he only sought the Speakers Chair last term because he thought there would be deadlock in the vote for Chief Minister and he could swoop in and do a Tony Brown. Which, if that was his plan, failed miserably.

Interesting theory. Even if true he seems to have now developed a liking for the quasi cross-dressing trappings of Speakership.

2 hours ago, NoTailT said:

Just do pooh sticks.

Such is the lamentable state of sewage treatment I rather think the the ducks will be competing with plenty of pooh sticks.

2 hours ago, The Voice of Reason said:

Could they “ bring” The Rolling Stones to the Isle of  Man? That would be better.

You what?! Have you seen Keef and Mick flying Hawk trainers in formation? They’re fucking hopeless. No thanks. 

1 hour ago, The Voice of Reason said:

Or does anyone think they have both got their just desserts?

(just to put the other side of the coin)

So Dr Ransom deserves ‘just desserts’ for ceaselessly attempting to prepare the island for resisting/managing the effects of a global pandemic through marshalling our healthcare resources effectively? Or, to put it another way, for doing exactly what her job description demands of her? 
Then again, you might be right, because if she’d simply dicked about ineffectually, spouted bullshit, prevaricated and achieved nothing, she’d have received not ‘just desserts’ but in fact a CBE or MBE, wouldn’t she? 

1 minute ago, Ham_N_Eggs said:

 

Everyone seems to have overlooked the fact that he is not very popular with his peers. He's not guaranteed to get Speaker if he ran; and he's almost certainly guaranteed not to get Chief Minister. 

I think you’re right on both counts. His lack of popularity was evident in the scale of his defeat in the Presidential election - let’s be honest, even a fairly poorly educated spaniel would trump Skelly for ability - so JW was rejected on grounds of personality, not competence. My earlier point was (and if I recall correctly Roger Mexico addressed the same matter) that if JW doesn’t bother his arse to seek re-election as Speaker (because he will retain his Keys seat) or, as you suggest, he does try but isn’t successful, then whoever does become Speaker will most likely be relatively inexperienced in parliamentary matters, and probably less experienced than many Speakers of old. For the record, I think that JW will seek Speakership, but if unsuccessful, won’t pursue CM.