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4 hours ago, The Phantom said:

I wouldn't go as far as to say I 'don't like them'. 

It seems like she is the most vocal of all these complaints and I'd warrant its ridiculous location for 11 months of the year, will no doubt be hitting her bottom line significantly.  I've definitely seen her complaining about road closures and/or weather before.  Plus she evidently has no idea how the VAT agreement works. 

 

You are clearly , for reasons best known to yourself , motivated by malice .

If you visited the cafe you would realise that you are wrong .

Did you see her positive post in relation to the road closing for the tyre testing ?  

You evidently are a "know nothing little shit " who I'll warrant  has achieved nothing in your sad  life and cannot  bear to see others succeed .

Hope this helps

On 3/17/2024 at 11:16 AM, joebean said:

Oh, so you know what the cause of that incident was? In your eyes all about the decisions made by the CoC rather than errors by marshals? And you also know that nothing has been done to enhance rider safety as a result of it? Life must be quite different in your parallel universe. I couldn’t care less about the TT these days and will not be on the island over the period. It seems that those that say they care about it are least interested in any facts and prefer their own opinions about it. 

As far as I know no report of the incident has been made available to the public.

The CoC notified marshals that riders would be returning to the grandstand counterclockwise  ( has happened before with no probs , eg after DJ's incident). 

However:-  Riders should , after a red flag ,return following a travelling marshal  fore and aft  ,at normal road speed under waved yellow's at all marshalling points . I'm told that this was part of the riders briefing .

That said , while marshalling @ Black Hut a rider stopped ( ran out of fuel) , confirmed he had retired  and while the marshals were in the hut went outside , fired up his bike and set off (on cold tyres !) without permission , he made about 100yds  . Race control were informed  .

The marshals  I know would never have permitted a rider to set off ( having stopped for any reason)  without an explicit instruction from race control.

I know that a Marshal @ Sulby Bridge put out a red flag to stop riders returning back down the course, stopped 2 , ( confirmed by a pic in local paper &I know the marshal involved) 

I understand the incident leading to the red flag had been resolved and involved a single rider with no other rider involved so there would appear to be no reason for the police to attend ( so no "blame" , no possible manslaughter charge) .  I have dealt with 5 offs @ 'Casey's" including 2 fatals ( single bike incidents) and the police did not attend during the roads being closed. 

I am not apportioning blame to anyone as I don.t have all the facts , just stating what I do know .

I have contacted the CoC and others in relation to the 2  fatalities  @ Caseys ,  in both cases the riders went in early and the initial point of impact was a culvert pipe ( and it's subsequent remains/ large rocks ) in the gully adjacent to the raised curb on the bend . The riders who went in late ( survived) were thrown onto the banking . I was advised by the CoC that there was no perceived danger and  no 'cushioning' was necessary .  I note that the gully was filled in with large granite rocks but latterly  dug out again and Imo more of a hazard as rocks have replaced the sod/moss bank now further down the course .

I have also ventured to suggest that  riders who went 'off' @ Black Hut (7 if memory serves) 3  suffered with severe lower leg trauma as a result of coming into contact with the vertically sloping wall at the start of the bend which could, IMO, be alleviated by the installation of boarding .

I chose ( as an Ex H&S enforcing  inspector ,across) not  to continue marshalling ( my job was looking after the rider , with a medic if we had one ). If , god forbid , history repeats itself I couldn't face the relatives of the deceased rider and again have  to choose to be compassionate rather than honest when asked  "what happened ?".

My only reason for posting the above is to improve rider safety at my former marshalling points 

16 hours ago, Dirty Buggane said:

Again tinkering with the goodwill of the marshal's, whom without there would be no racing. Or to start a conspiracy is this how they are going to kill it off, we can't get enough marshals. Its not our fault. Tossers 

The "Isle of Man TT Marshals Association " ceased to be , without consulting it's 400-600 marshal voting 'members '  and replaced by the "TT marshals ltd " which had  2 voting members thus giving the marshals absolutely no say in anything TT/MGP related . 

At a EGM of the former TTMA the meeting was advised by a Mr Crellin(sp?) that the new organisation would be more democratic having 2 voting members approved by the Motorsport Team / CoC. No indication of the assets/liabilities of the TTMA ltd were provided at the EGM.

The Motorsport team and the CoC now have absolute control of every aspect of the TT/MGP .

   Many local marshals voted with their feet as they perceive that the new organisation is run under military rules ( you obey orders/instructions without question, and shut up  ) and any marshal offering any opinion/criticism will be disciplined/sacked ( see CSM Sector 9 and latterly Sector 10), at the whim of the CoC.

I no longer marshal, the principal reason being the  cavalier attitude to rider safety taken by the CoC ( see  previous posts on MF).

Just saying 

22 hours ago, wrighty said:

Not really. Patients came from the same pool and were done pretty much in order of how long they'd waited. It's never done exactly, for lots of reasons, but the aim is that the waiting list is a queue and everyone waits the same as everyone else. 
 

 

I was told 8 years ago that I needed 2 new hips ,still waiting , on the upside I did get a letter a week or so back asking me if I still wanted to remain on the waiting list . My GP has (I'm told ), kept  Nobles aware of my 'situation'. 

I anticipate that I will have to go across , 'private' at £15K a pop , pity that they don't do 'private' on the island and benefit from the income stream and the post operative  convalescent care costs benefitting the Island .

Had a chat with someone @ Nobles who claimed the hospital "had all the gear" ( confirmed by the gastro team @ L'pool who advised me the kit @ Nobles was far superior to the endoscopy gear they had .

Just saying 

3 hours ago, Banker said:

Thanks Juan, no Falkland Islands trips this year?

Err , "extended" trips , to visit all the battle sites  , he gave a talk about it .

I stand to be corrected but it's claimed that his delay in returning to IOM added an extra airfare cost ( in addition to the paracetamol and suncream ) . He did explain that the ozone layer was thinner there though.

just saying 

4 hours ago, Fred the shred said:

The chuckle brothers from the south have now joined Rob in the great uprising…I think Alf is quite safe if this is the strength of it.   Of course if he isn’t on Face Book he is probably unaware of this pointless excercise.    How many voters are in Onchan ?    How many read and commentated on Rob’s proposal?   Remember what happened to Guy Faulks , he didn’t come out of it very well  🤣.

"Rob" now asks for views on Face Book ? He previously stated that Face Book views were irrelevant and would not be considered in relation to his planned destruction of the TT Scoreboard . He really does want his penny and his bun! Just saying 

4 hours ago, John Wright said:

It’s nothing like a social tax.

Water in UK and IoM is a property tax. It bears no relation to consumption, other than the possibility that a larger, more valuable, property ( with higher rates or council tax bill ) will probably be occupied by more people and use more water and produce more sewage.

I could point you to a property , occupied by a retired couple, comprising  5 bedrooms 9 (all en suite) with   a 2 bed ( en suite) flat on the lower ground floor..

just saying , hope this helps

37 minutes ago, P.K. said:

I could no longer understand what @HeliX was trying to say. Perhaps he doesn't either...

As a debating strategy it's a winner!

Apparently the IDF have surrounded a hospital that Hamas use as cover.

I wonder what the IDF strategy will be to destroy the vermin....?

What a disgusting post.

Saved if only to demonstrate what depths this self confessed sadist will stoop to to delight in the deaths of innocent women and children . 

1 hour ago, kevster said:

sidecars don't race at the MGP. This was a test of a new make of tyres

I was referring to the TT 'sidecar celebration'  

50 minutes ago, P.K. said:

@HeliX

Your total lack of any form of condemnation of Palestinian Islamic Jihad for firing rockets at Israeli civilians is duly noted. Some would call your "don't bomb Gaza" stance hypocritical but I couldn't possibly comment...

 

Where did HeliX say what you claim ? 

Personally I think the mods should ban you for posting scurrilous lies .

You really are an odious little brat.

Hope this helps 

4 minutes ago, P.K. said:

But not Palestinian Islamic Jihad for firing rockets aimed randomly at Israeli civilians including women and children.

How heartless...

10 hours ago, buncha wankas said:

What has Phillips TT manager got against him, did he not give him a merchandising discount on his cycling sideline 😆 let’s hope local expertise is utilised and TT development manager gets binned.  Cost us a lot of money 💵 

One could be forgiven for thinking that he has no incentive/interest  for TT/MGP to succeed as an event and is more interested in cycling events if he is 'the big cheese' in the 'Grand Fondu' as  some claim.

just saying

On 10/17/2023 at 7:39 PM, Non-Believer said:

The imbeciles at DfE strung him out until January this year until it was too late for him to have organised things, even if he'd wanted to. They knew full well what they were doing, he'd been doing the business for years and the necessary lead times were well known.

Some might suggest that it was quite deliberate because

Sounds the standard procedure , as evidenced by the powers that be's determination to cancel "Jurby Day" ( April if memory serves). 

"deliberate " ? perhaps because they were embarrassed that the local branch of the VMCC ( bunch of pensioner motorcycle enthusiasts ) could organise and run a financially successful well attended event whereas the best they could do with a £2 million + budget was get 3 modern sidecars to do a lap . Would the offer of 5% to an individual have made a difference?

Just saying

13 minutes ago, HeliX said:

Bit glass houses that, love. You do nothing but selectively quote posts and ignore anything that doesn't agree with how you already think.

Have to say I do not always agree with you  but on this thread I do , pointless arguing with PK  ( PK demonstrably doesn't 'think' ) . Just saying 

6 minutes ago, CrazyDave said:

It’s a strange forum this.

Why would a group of people make guesses about and even joke about why someone’s business has failed.  Openly speculating about something that will be a very low point in someone’s life, and for all we know might be out of their hands.

Its pretty unpleasant really.

Unpleasant? perhaps but if you have had seen  the  way this company has behaved and made someone's life a misery for a couple of years making ludicrous assertions and claims before dropping the action it's entirely understandable IMO .

The individual concerned was representing himself and would have been ruined and lost everything .

Hope this helps

12 hours ago, Banker said:

Guernsey car parking charges going a lot more than ours!

https://gsy.bailiwickexpress.com/gsy/news/airport-parking/?fbclid=IwAR3WlRH4AW0dC7RrF2RMYVZ7bfnlk4qNgNOM32Naehl-3c5UJpBvOgJQwGA

On 26/8/2023 I paid ( @ the desk ) £20 for parking for up to 24 hrs .

It would seem that Guernsey is catching up with the IOM . Just saying

5 hours ago, Max Power said:

 

 

I don't believe that the CoC has a 'cavalier attitude to rider safety' and the methods of dealing with casualties are nothing to do with him. They are prescribed according to the current medical thinking at the time, by the Chief Medical Officer. It used to be the case that riders were put on a scoop stretcher, assessed by the helicopter doctor and flown to hospital asap in order to give the best attention there, this was the thinking at the time, known as 'The Golden Hour'. Meaning that if you got someone hospital treatment within an hour, they stood a better chance of survival.  Emergency procedures have changed, as anyone who watches the endless series of fly on the wall emergency ambulance TV programmes. Now the thinking is to bring the hospital to the patient and not to move them until they are stabilised. That's why we see so many red flags, when the rider can not be moved.     

 

Max , I understood the ACU training course instructed marshals how to deal with casualties , I am pleased to see that it is now accepted that there may be situations where " the rider can not be moved".

That said I would venture to suggest that the idea to get injured riders to Nobles asap was sound however the concept of "bringing the hospital to the patient" can result in unfortunate delays eg  when David Linsdel (SP)and Bernie Wright (SP?) had their off @ 'Black Hut' the helicopter was on the ground for well over an hour while the doc could not decide who should be go in the helicopter first ( as I'm told 2 riders cannot be taken at the same time) . It was an evening practice ( not red flagged) and the riders were roadside beginning to suffer from hypothermia (IMO) and the marshals (reassuring them that they hadn't been forgotten) were a tad chilled . 

I emailed the CoC in relation to the 5 "offs" ( including sadly 2 fatals )@ Caseys and a  request that perhaps safety fencing could be provided , his reply indicated that he did not see there was a problem . To be fair I now accept that some modifications to the adjacent trackside to mitigate  the situation to a degree.

just saying

57 minutes ago, Blade Runner said:

Having seen a couple or three, even the best "trained" Marshals have not got a clue and run around flapping. I don't fault them, it is a horrific thing to witness first hand.

How do you train a marshal or especially a newbie one to cope mentally, for the visual experience of massive brunt force trauma injuries that often occur on the island bike races? An online form will not do it.

Never mind the decapitations, there are plenty other massive traumas, with arms, legs and other sticky out bits* ripped off at the side of the road/ impact event. Not forgetting the horse cut in half in Ballaugh that I saw, not a pretty sight.

*Yes I mean cocks, they get mangled just like the other body parts when they hit a hard structure at speed and stop abruptly.

 

I'm afraid I don't believe you , perhaps you could specify where you witnessed  these incidents you claimed .

FWIW I have witnessed 12 "offs" and assisted the paramedic when we had one otherwise I was on my own with the rider. Your broad assertion that "marshals haven't got a clue and run around flapping " is offensive and untrue.

Out or the 12 , 2 were "fatals" ,neither of which fitted  your description of the aftermath of a "fatal" and both were a result of the initial point of impact trauma .

I no longer marshal as I feel the CoC has a cavalier attitude to rider safety ( see my  previous posts ) and I do not accept the instruction that irrespective of the circumstances riders should be dragged off the road  and 'rolled' onto a 'scoop stretcher' . I have yet to meet a paramedic who would agree with that instruction and not split the scoop stretcher when a rider  clearly may have  leg/pelvic/ internal injuries .

A number of local marshals opted not to marshal  because they could not , as required by the ACU / CoC obey ( without question), adopt  and applaud all the decisions / instructions of the COC . Failure to do so would involve the diciplinary procedure and being told your services were no longer required ( see the sacking of the CSM Sector 10 by the CoC when (comically), he actually had no authority as he held no position in the IOMTT MA , but later apparently ratified (?) )

I think the "cock" you refer to is in fact you blade runner. hope this helps .

Just saying

4 hours ago, The Voice of Reason said:

He’s gathering ideas. 

Don’t be surprised if DBC introduces a premium bin collection service at a premium price. 
 

I suspect that will be sufficient for a ban . Is it any wonder that many now chose not to post . I thought JW was bad enough ( BTW banned me for "spamming"  🤣) , but the present mods have exceeded even my wildest expectations😂 , seldom a dry leg in this house when reading the drivel of the sites 'Marco Polo' bragging about his travels and overseas property portfolio ,   someone who claims to be a politician  and not forgetting the  'Brexit bore '..... bless

29 minutes ago, La Colombe said:

If you think about it you're not just saying. You're also enabling. 

Just expressing an opinion on what I have witnessed .

 I no longer marshal and take the view that to remain silent is to be complicit .

TBH I suspect my services would " no longer be required ",  as I have been described as a "troublemaker",  based on the treatment the former CSM ( sector 10) for expressing a view contrary to that of the ACU .

2 hours ago, Ativa said:

Exactly.

You can have pretty much the same crash twice even somewhere with very little to hit, like Windy corner.

160mph and slide down the road.  Probably ok.

120mph but head digs into the gravel,  probably dead.

Very true , at "Casey's" on the mountain hit the curb early and the point of impact was/is the culvert in the gully behind the curb /the remains of the culvert pipe and the rocks in the gully (the gully has now been infilled with large rocks without  a permeable  smooth finish. Hit the curb late and the rider will fly over the former gully and onto the banking .

That said the powers that be have taken the fencing further back so less chance of a rider hitting it and installed a chamfered curb but if the initial point of impact is the rocks in the gully sadly it will IMO ( as history has proved ) result in a third fatality . Just saying

On 5/6/2023 at 1:29 PM, Roxanne said:

I saw the picture. It looks like one hell of a landslide.

Paul Carey and sons on the job with their diggers.

Right.

Just hoping they don't leave the digger in the road Rox

14 minutes ago, Steve_Christian said:

I don’t know how much clearer I can be. Before the TTMA folded and became the TTMa Ltd - or whatever happened, it had 6 directors, of which I was one, voted in by the membership, we were consulted on the changes to the TT as marshal representatives in 2020. We were unable to share the information wider as it was embargoed. Latterly (after I had to resign as I was working permanently off island) they changed the corporate structure and what you say above happened.  Therefore, clearly you have beef with the current structure and decisions - but my point is 100% accurate - the TTMA as it was, was consulted about the changes and we had opportunity to feed into the decision making process. 

An EGA was called by the IOMTTMA ltd on 9th Feb ( attended by many 'members' including myself) which was adjourned until the 2nd March as two information was available on the companies assets and liabilities. The members voted for an adjournment and expressed the view of their dissatisfaction  with the proposal that the IOMTTMA be folded and replaced by the TTMA ltd which would comprise 2 members ( approved by government).

The rescheduled EGA did not take place and members of the IOMTTMA ltd were notified in Dec 22 that the company will cease to exist on 31 Dec 22.

That is precisely what happened.

I would be grateful for information on this "embargo" you refer to ?

I would venture to suggest that the members of a company should be the ones who decide if the company should voluntarily fold , 

Perhaps the directors were consulted about the changes but the members certainly were not , neither were serving marshals.

Your assertion that I have a " beef"  is without foundation and by your own admission ("whatever happened") you have demonstrated your ignorance , hence my post explaining what happened .

7 minutes ago, Steve_Christian said:

The consultation happened way before 2022, and the change in the company structure. 

There was an EGA of the IOMTTMA Ltd which was adjourned  when members voted against it being wound up , it was then adjourned again  and members were subsequently advised that it was wound up on 31Dec 22 . 

The company did not change it's structure it was folded without reference to it's members and replaced by a new company , the TTMA ltd.

Perhaps before posting inaccurate information you should check facts .

hope this helps

On 4/24/2023 at 7:22 PM, Steve_Christian said:

I don’t think it’s unrealistic to expect the directors of the TTMA, all of whom here voted into their positions by the membership, are experienced marshals (including the Chief sector Marshal) and have access to all of the data of who has signed up for years, can contribute to the decision on behalf of the marshals adequately. The biggest issue would have been restrictions on travel post covid - but there isn’t any. 

 

 

when the TTMALtd  was set up there were 2 members ( 'ratified by IOM Gov ") who had voting rights . Just saying

On 4/24/2023 at 6:45 PM, Steve_Christian said:

Yes the IOMTTMA were part of the consultation. 

The IOMTTMA ceased to exist on 31st Dec 2022 without consulting its members ( over 600 members ), it was replaced by the TTMA Ltd , having 2 members ( ratified by government  . Marshals are not consulted , they are instructed . Hope this helps