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  1. On 11/25/2019 at 8:30 AM, Barrie Stevens said:

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/25/get-brexit-done-reality-far-more-difficult-tortuous-european-union

    Brexit day is just the beginning. We face many years of complexity subject to EU rules and influence. The above appears to include a lot from the BBC News website item and is worth a read..

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/25/johnson-sowing-seeds-of-biggest-brexit-crisis-yet-warns-sir-ivan-rogers

    This worth reading

  2. On 11/17/2019 at 8:22 AM, Freggyragh said:

    So you don’t want to trade on WTO rules either? You have been arguing for Geneva rules without having a clue what that means. If you’re interested, ask an adult to read the rules around compensation to you. 

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/25/get-brexit-done-reality-far-more-difficult-tortuous-european-union

    Brexit day is just the beginning. We face many years of complexity subject to EU rules and influence. The above appears to include a lot from the BBC News website item and is worth a read..

  3. On 11/19/2019 at 11:41 PM, Chinahand said:

    If an English royal is a nonce they deserve everything the state and the tabloid press can throw at them, just as much as any Rotherham taxi driver, or Sunday League kiddy fiddler.

    Andrew Windsor's protestations of amnesia in this case are far too selective, and create an impression he's so used to being pulled off by the servants he has lost his moral compass.  It's a gift for the conspiracists who think the Royals are abusive lizard people.

    Their day has past ... their privilege begone.  

    Apparently one of the govt law officers is waiting until after the election to see if Prince Andrew could be prosecuted in the context of a trafficked person forced into sex services which I suppose is a crime.

    This issue Scotland yard has avoided so far. Anyone fancy being the DCI or whatever given the job of prosecuting a royal prince in the name of his Mum the Queen? Promotion and pension or resign and take the money afterwards? 

    I suppose such a case would be R v Andrew in some form of name???

    That would create an interesting constitutional issue I imagine??

  4. On 11/19/2019 at 11:43 PM, P.K. said:

    Bearing in mind the not very good UK record on rape prosecutions it can ONLY be used in the most obvious of cases.

    I know a member of Rochdale police personally and I can tell you that despite what you may have read in the more lurid UK press and seen on the telly they were absolutely mortified at what had been going on under their very noses. It cast a stain over the whole policing effort. Which like every chain of command is only as strong as it's weakest link.

    Face it, Air Miles Andy is not exactly the only male on the planet who has a brain and an erection but only enough blood to operate one at a time. You know, like the Prime Minister....

    He came across as having a barrier of privilege that just completely screened him from the real world and thus any commonsense. The damage he has done the Royal Family may well be terminal.

    Now, just how do you form a Republic without using Madame Guillotine...?

    The entire present day monarchy is a relatively new legal construct invented by parliament progressively following the republic stemming from the civil war. If there is sufficient public demand we can legislate the monarchy away.

    The monarchy was restored on the understanding that the monarch be a mere figurehead. George III signed away any vestigial powers in return for an annual payment. He also gave up the responsibility of financing such as the army and the civil administration.

    Edward VIII's position was impacted by parliament and he ended up in exile. The Wallis Simpson marriage was not acceptable.

    In recent times parliament has made it possible for the first born to be monarch even if female rather than male precedence as was.

    The royals and PM's sniff the wind. The pressure will not be end of monarchy but fewer of them doing public duties for which they get a stipend. Fewer on the balcony and smaller group photos.

    Unlike the Netherlands I doubt we will see a king or queen going round on a bike and shopping in Waitrose....

    As was drummed into me at school. The monarch reigns but parliament governs. If we wanted it we could have a republic with no violence at all....save like Brexit amongst ourselves...Just like the civil war, cavaliers v roundheads etc....

  5. 1 hour ago, John Wright said:

    His politics and economics are not anywhere near as far left as Attlee, Bevan, Bevin or Stafford Crips.

    However the MSM are much further to the right than at any time since the 1930’s, certainly more than in 1945. 

    Attlee etc were dealing with a nation suffering far more poverty than today and also trying to recover from a war. In those days the young folk said we will fight this war for you but there had better be a few changes after its over and we come back home. We are not going back to the old order and certainly not the poverty as post First World War...

  6. 5 minutes ago, woolley said:

    Very droll, Bazza. It is a banal way to conduct a campaign though, a man of your august learning must surely concur. The whole thing appears to be targeted at idiots. 

    Indeed. But one of the skills needed to be a PM or Minister in Government is to master the brief. Boris blusters. He wings it. Always has. His journalism, politics even as Mayor. All lies and bluster. If Brexit occurs at all there will be many further years of negotiating. I do not see Boris as being up to that task. He cannot master a brief. My manor is LibDem run and I will vote that way in the election. Boris is rubbish all hat and no cattle. Corbyn is a commie. Which leaves Jo Swinson CBE who has at least some experience and a decent degree. She will have to learn fast and she is not Thatcher ...Yet...But rather her than the other two. Not much choice but Oh well. Another Marvin clip perhaps?

  7. 22 minutes ago, woolley said:

    The other day Boris was asked a crass question about the naughtiest thing he'd ever done. He gave a crass answer. "I'm not answering because I would improvise something I had not cleared with my handlers and I would bitterly regret it." Well done, Boris, you made yourself sound like some half wild baboon. I think they got what they wanted. 

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-50344110

    Boris either lies or does not understand his own deal.. The link explains what it will mean for N Ireland which as near as dammit is staying in the EU for all intents and purposes. Seems his rambling speech with glass in hand has gone viral..

  8. 1 minute ago, woolley said:

    The other day Boris was asked a crass question about the naughtiest thing he'd ever done. He gave a crass answer. "I'm not answering because I would improvise something I had not cleared with my handlers and I would bitterly regret it." Well done, Boris, you made yourself sound like some half wild baboon. I think they got what they wanted. 

    Smashing stuff about Boris in his Uni days in Private Eye I will have a go at paraphrasing it later...

  9. 1 hour ago, Barrie Stevens said:

    https://www.businessinsider.com/

    Boris tells Northern Ireland it is so lucky to have the benefits of the EU ie Single market etc and yet denies this to the rest of the UK. So if it is so good why are we leaving?  Sauce for the goose etc...I give a link to the first of many Boris contradictions... 

    https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/politics/listen-to-boris-johnson-contradicting-his-own-brexit-deal-in-rambling-speech-in-ni-last-night-1-9134882

    Straight from the horse's mouth. Boris contradicts his own Brexit deal. Click the link to hear it in his own words... If it works.

  10. 24 minutes ago, woody2 said:

    it's the guardian that lies.......

    it’s a declaration not a customs check.........

    the declaration is submitted electronically.........so no border check...........

    it's not that hard to grasp unless you read the guardian.......

    bj is telling the truth........for once......

    The point being that Boris says he can ride over and ignore or not comply with that which will be a treaty if it comes to pass..

  11. 10 minutes ago, woody2 said:

    it's the guardian that lies.......

    it’s a declaration not a customs check.........

    the declaration is submitted electronically.........so no border check...........

    it's not that hard to grasp unless you read the guardian.......

    bj is telling the truth........for once......

    https://www.businessinsider.com/ Boris not understand his own deal Farage says he doubts Boris has even read it...

  12. 5 minutes ago, woody2 said:

    it's the guardian that lies.......

    it’s a declaration not a customs check.........

    the declaration is submitted electronically.........so no border check...........

    it's not that hard to grasp unless you read the guardian.......

    bj is telling the truth........for once......

    Well everyone else thinks that he does not understand his own deal and contradicts himself saying that N Ireland is so lucky...Look at the other link I posted...He has handed this gaff on a plate to the other teams...The Business Insider is more succinct so click the link above...The Single market is good for N Ireland. They are lucky to have this privilege. But the rest of us No. Not for us lot. Bit Curate's egg eh what?

  13. 15 hours ago, woody2 said:

    didn't one of them say they hated the place.......

    I was told that at one stage they moved back to the Island and had houses in the Belmont hill area off Peel Road Douglas...I worked with someone who worked for a removals firm and helped to move them...They did not stay long apparently. Maybe it was a tax related residence...

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  14. 11 minutes ago, Barrie Stevens said:

    https://www.businessinsider.com/

    Boris tells Northern Ireland it is so lucky to have the benefits of the EU ie Single market etc and yet denies this to the rest of the UK. So if it is so good why are we leaving?  Sauce for the goose etc...I give a link to the first of many Boris contradictions... 

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/08/boris-johnson-goods-from-northern-ireland-to-gb-wont-be-checked-brexit

    Boris lies again 

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