Thomas Jefferson

You tell 'em, Mr Meldrew!!!!

 

Just raise the age to 21. There's no need for teenagers to drive when we have a perfectly good public bus service.

You can be a tit after 21. How old are you?

 

73.

Just raise the age to 21. There's no need for teenagers to drive when we have a perfectly good public bus service.

And what of the guy that allowed him to drive the car?

Aiding and abetting?

According to today's IOM Examiner (page 5):

In September, Andrew James Reeday, aged 19, of Ballakillowey, Colby, who owned the Ford Fiesta car, was handed a 180-hour community service order and disqualified from driving for nine months for his part in the crime. He pleaded guilty to allowing Bridgewater to drive his car without a licence and wasting police time. On March 8, Reeday had spent the afternoon driving around Peel, Douglas and Onchan picking up a number of teenagers aged 14 to 19, including Lucia Porter. At some stage arrangements were made to meet up later that evening with Bridgewater at a friend's house in Oak Road, Peel. On arrival there were already six people in the car. Bridgewater, who only had a provisional licence, offered to drive. He drove with eight people in the car, including two people in the boot, on to the Switchback Road...........

Is that photo doing the rounds on Facebook genuinely one taken an hour before sentencing? Surely he'd be within the grounds of the IOM Courts of Justice with his family an hour before sentencing? If genuine, it's in poor taste and insensitive. I just can't understand people sometimes.

I don't envy Deemster Montgomerie his job when it comes to handling difficult no-win cases like this. All things being considered, I think he made the right decision within the remit of the options available to him. The only silver lining that might come out of this case is that young people might learn from it and think twice before behaving in such a reckless manner and thereby prevent further tragedies such as this from happening.

I do hope you and your ilk are not including me in the proverbial "we"

 

Please do not presume to speak for me - I am capable of making my own views known and if you were selling your services as a PR rep I would rather not bother.

 

speak for you? to achieve that I'd have to have a lobotomy.

 

And to achieve that, you'd have to have a brain. Never mind.

Was that a new cruise ship docking facility shown in the image of the future plan of Douglas?

The last film I watched was The Hunger Games. Not a great film but I think I'm in love with Jennifer Lawrence.

My mouth was closed when I typed that.

'It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.' Jiddu Krishnamurti

'It is ironic that persons in whom the evolutionary processes of Nature have begun to operate more rapidly, and who can be considered as advanced mutants of the human race, are institutionalized as subnormal by their 'normal' peers. I dare to guess, on the basis of discussion with my psychiatrist-friends, that this process is not as exotic and rare as one would like us to believe, and possibly 25 to 30 per cent of all institutionalized schizophrenics belong to this category -- a tremendous waste of human potential.

The reason for this is that they have been catapulted suddenly into a situation in which they are functioning in more than one reality. They can see and hear things occuring in our neighbouring realities, that is the astral or other higher realities, because their 'frequency responses' has been broadened ... The onslught of information may be overwhelming, and they begin to mix and confuse two or three realities.'

- Itzhak Bentov

Ragged

 

If you ever present to your GP with symptoms of depression one of the diagnosis tools they use is a questionnaire. In that questionnaire you are presented with a series of questions to answer on a sliding scale. Once your answers are assessed then the GP established how "at risk" you are. If similar tools were used in this case then it is possible that a symptom would be missed.

A questionnaire which is fairly useless at detecting risk of self-harm because it assumes people are going to answer the questions honestly. I think most people with any common sense know better than to say something which will end up getting them sectioned under the Mental Health Act.

Insight is a major factor in psychiatric illness. If you hear voices, but have the insight to say to yourself "Oh no, I'm hearing voices again, I'll try to ignore them until my medication takes effect", you're much less likely to act upon whatever the voices tell you to do. If you have no insight whatsoever and firmly believe that it is god telling you to do something, you're more likely to do it.

I accept that but do people who hear voices go and kill themselves because the voices tell them to or do they do it because they're generally just fed up of years of their life wasted away hearing voices and with the accompanying parnaoia, anxiety and delusion which must preclude them from a normal life? I think it's probably a combination of the two so I wouldn't arbitrarily say someone who is aware of their own condition is less likely to top themselves.

Then you are an asshole, or you do not know him, or both.

Buster, you are just out of prison for, (I think) fraud, deception and god only knows what else, yet you have turned up on MF posting as if you are some sort of authority on all subjects and whiter than white.

I wonder how many other people think you are a bit out of line judging others?

 

I don't know about anyone else on here but, based on his posts thus far, I would have no reservations about voting for him. There's more truth and common sense and less bullshit coming from his keyboard than from most "contributors" on here.

 

A non collapsible shower rail in such a facility is no less forgivable either.

 

Where did they draw their safety policy and procedure from?

 

ETA: it also states that because Mr Hall had insight into his own condition he was deemed not be at risk of suicide. What mental health worker in their right mind could make that monumental error of thinking?

 

More than likely someone qualified to do so.

How come all these experts on here are not running some sort of utopia where everyone and everything is perfect ?

 

Qualified to make monumental errors of thinking? Yes, I can believe that.

 

it also states that because Mr Hall had insight into his own condition he was deemed not be at risk of suicide. What mental health worker in their right mind could make that monumental error of thinking?

 

Could it be that the assessment "tools" used would give a lower risk score to someone who has awareness of their condition?

 

Why would awareness of one's condition mean a lower risk of suicide? I've never heard such tripe.

It seems that more and more patients who have mental health problems are ending up in prison. If that is the case, then why?

How many people who have mental problems actually end up in prison and should they have gone there in the first place?

Must be worth an answer for whichever MHK is willing to ask the question?

It could be because people with mental health problems tend to self-medicate with drugs and then get thrown in prison with criminals and marked with a criminal record for being in possession of them -- all to protect them from the terrible consequences of drugs. Plus there is the over-use of mental health labels and I'm sure advocates will be quick to make use them to try and get their clients reduced sentences. the advocates see to it that their clients will get a psychological evaluation as part of a pre-trial review and no doubt they'll tell their clients how to "perform" for their evaluation so they get stamped with some mental health label.

A deeply tragic thing to happen.

 

Further, the 'loss' of records is extremely worrying. So we only have a single copy of everything do we? No back-ups? No control over who has the right to delete/destroy records?

 

Very strange approach to both social care and record keeping.

That's what's so strange. The Department *DOES* have back-ups and does have controls in place over who can access or edit or erase records. Something very funny going on if you ask me!

I visit professionally.

To do what?

Also, the computer with the relevant files had been wiped, leading him to question whether reports had been completed in the manner expected.

The Department of Health and Social care, as it now is, has issued a statement in response to Mr Needham's findings.

It's fairly obvious they were deleted on purpose. You can't just accidentally delete a patient record on a Department of Health computer. They have systems in place to ensure you're in records for the right reasons and it would take an upper level management person and someone in ISD to go about permanently "wiping" a record out of existence. Oh well, yet another scandal hidden under the Department of Health and Social Care rug and it certainly won't be the last.

 

The way some of the people are going on you would think they had been stranded in the gaza strip with no hope of getting home.

 

 

Who'd go to Gaza for a holiday...?

 

I quite fancy going to this place ....

Oh wait, I can't:

 

The park opened in May 2010 and was burned down by masked men in September 2010, after being closed by the Palestinian Hamas de facto government for allowing men and women to mingle.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crazy_Water_Park

Perpetual war for perpetual profits.