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So they are. I had missed that announcement. Normality is coming, finally. Does however mean 60,000 England fans will be sitting there watching a final England aren't in and wondering what could have been

Looks like Majorca, Minorca or Ibiza for your imminent Green list Sunshine then. Hopefully with more to follow. Suprised there isn’t more pressure on them packing Wembley for the rest of Euros when you see how full the stadiums are in other countries.

I haven’t done a survey. But the percentage of the islands trees that are on the TT course or even next to roads will be less than 1 percent. Its a similar argument to not cutting hedgerows back to aid visibility for conservation reasons. The proportions of hedges on island that line roads is tiny and cutting them back is so insignificant it would make no difference to anything. Cutting every tree next to a road down would look awful and be unnecessary, but to suggest there would be noticeable environmental damage is nonsense. Especially if as in this case, other tres were being planted instead.

Can’t beat a bit of unsubstantiated rumour hey? Not only are there fields, but an actual road that would need to be crossed to get a drive from here to Ballakew

Yes you did

How long would it take the trees to counter the carbon footprint of the design, build, shipping, manufacture and installation of that lot? There has probably been more power consumed just in the planning process, and people debating it online than they cancel out in years already. I honestly don’t get it. It’s just some old trees?

Fancy answering the question about what the actual issue is rather than deflecting? Plus, it’s 2021 so not my place to identify anything. The poor tree can identify as whatever it likes these days.

Howard Quayle has grown to maturity. Doesn’t mean there aren’t other better suited people for the position. Just because something has been there for hundreds of years doesn’t mean it is the best option available. Other than short term aesthetics and the fact that it is a change, what is the actual issue with the proposals and the planting of new trees which has been carefully researched and planned?

More appropriate for the area. Carefully researched and selected. As detailed in the planning docs.

Got to be honest. As long as they are planting more trees to replace them I can’t really see an issue? If they were just chopping them down and concreting it there would be a (very minor) issue, but hey, peoples requirements change. The roots are probably knackering the road anyway so just replace them with more trees of better species and in better places for 2021. What’s the issue? Other than not liking change?

I heard there were a group of men from Ireland involved. More than two of them, but less than four. Tree fella’s apparently.

And caused two (well, his administration have and if he wants to take the glory for the good times you have to take the rough with the smooth)

Do you not think the data from all the countries worldwide in a similar position to us show us it is way beyond "hopes & dreams or best guess work and assumptions"? Not having a dig, its a genuine question. I personally take great relief from seeing the huge differences the vaccine has clearly made all over the world in countries that pre vaccine were really struggling? Those real and quantifiable improvements are personally, all I need to see. What else should we be waiting for?

Really dont. Go back to normal. Stop testing people. Stop stressing about it. Stop letting it negatively impact on peoples lives and businesses. If the press stopped reporting it and we stopped testing it would just become like flu and people would forget about it - in the same way people forget about the people in the UK currently being killed by flu and pneumonia to a factor of ten more than are "with" COVID. I just want my life back and to be able to conduct my two businesses normally again. One of which is still being heavily impacted and one of which has basically been mothballed for over a year now.

Nor do we care do we?

I rest my case. Double jabbed people aren’t going to be wandering around infecting unvaccinated people and putting them in hospital. The figures in the UK already show this. Canada, America, lots of other places are removing all restrictions for the fully vaccinated. It isn’t some weird Manx only thing. There is huge amounts of science and statistics behind it. Chances are you could quite happily spend a whole day out and about with no vaccine in the company of a double jabbed “spreader” and be fine. A vaccinated case in the presence of a none vaccinated person is very, very unlikely to pass it on. If they do there are of course far less people for that person to then pass it onto - because vaccine.

I really think this point is being missed by those who still think the hospital will be overrun by the end of next week. I don’t know what they need to do to reassure people? Maybe a simple graphic that shows how risk to everyone decreases as more people are vaccinated (or infected). The talk of percentages confuses people, and the message about overall reduction of risk hasn’t got through. Eg, a 70% reduction in risk of hospitalisation and a 80% reduction in risk of transmission doesn’t mean 20% of the population are still going to get it and 30% of those end up in Nobles. The level of reduction in risk is way, way more than that (as evidenced by figures in the UK) I really don’t know how they get that across to people, but really think they need to try. I have seen people taking about shielding kids from next week!! If these kids are really that vulnerable, surely they never left the house anyway? Peoples mental health is taking a battering because they are scared of the maths that they don’t understand and it’s sad to see.

Have also seen a few (very few to be fair) idiots posting that they won’t be making people welcome. Rest assured they are in the minority and the rest of us would welcome anyone who wants to visit.

Holidays start next week. The old people coach trips start in next couple of weeks. I have an old auntie booked on one who is all excited about being mask free in pubs etc. Staying at a best Western week after next and she has friends on another headed for the Claremont.

Noticed that and just posted same on COVID thread. Comedy gold,

Tentative link to this thread but was related to Mr Quayle’s visit to Hospice and his comments about Manx Radio funding. Andy Wint just now on maninline- not a direct quote. ”so, Manx Radio part funded by government subventions, and additionally like this “ Cuts to adverts to prove point about funding and How Manx Radio could easily survive in its own right. ”Isle of Man railways- Chooo chooo” An advert paid for by IoMG - quality

Then you are treated at nobles in line with the relevant protocols and procedures in place for that exact, and pretty common, scenario. Next?

Views on the restrictions, and views on how our elected representatives should show good judgement are two completely unrelated things. We already established several pages back that the majority of posters don't think there was a real associated risk. We also established that it is largely irrelevant as this issue is about questioning his judgment. There wouldn't be any real reason why HQ and Mrs HQ didn't regularly attend and be photographed at some of the islands swingers partys. Would really show sound judgement though given his position would it. Most people are capable of seeing that although there was no real harm done, this was at best a PR cockup.

You don’t think whether the others had been off island is relevant - in a discussion about whether HQ should have attended the event having just been off island? Here is a clue. If he hadn’t been away the discussion wouldn’t even be taking place.

Can we organise a boycott of the new places that stirred up a load of panic on Social media last night by reporting the 3 cases. Just ignore it now, it’s done. Congratulations to Gef, Energy and IOM newspapers. 3FM and Manx Radio can do one with their fear spreading.