Thomas Jefferson

Citing an individual or holding them in high esteem for their contributions to mankind does not mean you automatically approve of absolutely every single opinion or thing they've ever said or done. Nobody's perfect.

You're very touchy aren't you? Who mentioned you? I thought people might be interested in the video, am I not allowed to post things now? Are you a Youtube Nazi? Personally, I think Icke is spouting his usual mental ramblings but it does show there are some weird and messed up views out there. You are obviously attempting, amateurishly, to troll me. You posted it within minutes of me posting a video of David Icke, and even cut and pasted the same words I used in my post. It's grammatically incorrect, but I'll repeat the internet saying: obvious troll is obvious. David Icke has some crackpot ideas but he's also got a good understanding of how society is.

Oh, very funny. As usual, you can't get out of your binary thinking, assuming citing an individual means you automatically approve of absolutely every single opinion or thing they've ever said. What next, some dumb Noam Chomsky video on the subject?

You do often seem to have a lot in common with them. For example an apparent belief in the same world of nefarious conspiracies. We do live in a world of nefarious conspiracies...

And the mere existence of Jews -- left wing or right wing or no wing -- plays into Hamas' hands too.

I believe the article says "spawn", not "start". Israel did not create Hamas. The accusation in the article is that Israeli policies increased extremism in the area, which then facilitated the rise of Hamas. It's a ridiculous thesis. If anyone started Hamas, it's the Arab nations who've been funding and arming them since their creation.

^ Please don't reproduce.

A panel consisting of three anti-Israel clowns. Yeh, that'll be fair and balanced...

What a moron you are, sir or madam. I am not "indignant and hurt" -- I couldn't give a flying fook. And editing Mojo's post was obviously tongue in cheek and not an attempt to misrepresent. You should take a good long look at yourself in the mirror and headbutt yourself for being such a walter. I'm never insulting to people on here.

Have you read Dune??? 21,000 years, different planets and they're still going to be at it.........

Expect the BBC to not mention this and only report the Israeli counter-strike. I don't know about Spook but I personally would love to volunteer in the Israeli Army. Where do I sign up???

I don't think that would solve anything. It would just shelve it for a few thousand years. If there was an all out nuclear war and the entire region became radioactive, Jews would simply go to Israel in radiation suits to be able to live there. I don't think you can break the spiritual bond between the Jewish people and their land.

What colour was the light? Did it crisscross vertically or just horizontally? P.S. I posted that video of the Canadian dude because I thought it was relevant, not because I believe him. He's a bit too specific and goes into too much detail about different types of alien to be taken seriously, especially when he says he's never met an alien. His claim to seeing a UFO aside, his in-depth claims about alien types is entirely based on hearsay from people who are likely crackpots. The guy seems to believe any claim made to him via email.

Here's the actual exchange of words which you have quoted out of context:

Chinahand, what exactly is your solution? For all these cliched truisms about peace and human life, I'm not seeing any solutions from you that would have any actual chance of working to resolve the problem...... living on cloud cuckoo won't solve the problem.

Jews as a people are victims. I wasn't talking about every individual Jew. And as for your "they're doing very well" comment, there are also a great many Jews who do not do very well, thank you very much. Getting a load of lies from obvious liars does not constitute getting a "balanced" view.

There weren't 4 million of them in 1948 (plus that will include dead people to exaggerate their numbers). They just breed like rabbits, which is why merging them into a one state solution with the Jews of Israel would be a demographic time bomb. What do you propose be done with the half a million Jews in the West Bank? You want to mass deport them, don't you? How is that any different to people talking about moving "Palestinians" to Jordan, Syria, or Egypt?

No, you disrespect the victims of the Holocaust by exploiting them to accuse Israel and Jews of playing a victim card. Jews ARE victims, you half-wit. Holocaust survivors were among the Israelis defending their country in 1948 from Arab attack and certain genocide. Israel is the victim of mass propaganda against them. Every time the Middle East situation is in the news, there are Jews being beaten, harassed or even killed somewhere in the world. However, I have never heard a Jew use the Holocaust to say people can't criticise Israel; I only ever hear Israel-bashers bring it up in order to dehumanise the Israelis and characterise them as soulless Nazis and not as a people who have suffered a great deal. It's also a way for you to conveniently gloss over your own ancestors' actions toward Jews, so you can pose around on your high horse as if you have some kind of moral high ground. The Holocaust was never a justification for the RE-establishment of Israel. That process was well underway decades, in fact centuries and even millenia earlier if you'll get off youtube and go read some books and do some original research. All the Holocaust did is re-affirm the need for Jews to have their own homeland. Oh, good grief. Pro-Zionist BBC? You have got to be trolling. The BBC have been repeatedly taken to court for their anti-Israel bias and even conducted a review into it and now they've spent a lot of taxpayers' money trying to stifle Freedom of of Information requests to get it released to the public. RT is the Russian Government. Press TV is Iranian Government. Al Jazeera is the Qatari Government. You really are a tool if you believe you'll get a balanced world view from any government media operation. On the BBC, here's some stuff from Wikipedia: In the course of their "Documentary Campaign 2000–2004," Trevor Asserson, Cassie Williams and Lee Kern of BBCWatch published a series of reports The BBC And The Middle East stating in their opinion that "the BBC consistently fails to adhere to its legal obligations to produce impartial and accurate reporting."[48] Douglas Davis, the London correspondent of The Jerusalem Post, has accused the BBC of being anti-Israel. He wrote that the BBC's coverage of the Arab-Israeli conflict was a "portrayal of Israel as a demonic, criminal state and Israelis as brutal oppressors" and resembled a "campaign of vilification" that had de-legitimised the State of Israel.[49] "Anglicans for Israel", the pro-Israel pressure group, have berated the BBC for apparent anti-Israel bias.[50] The Daily Telegraph has criticised the BBC for its coverage of the Middle East. In 2007, the newspaper wrote, "In its international and domestic news reporting, the corporation has consistently come across as naïve and partial, rather than sensitive and unbiased. Its reporting of Israel and Palestine, in particular, tends to underplay the hate-filled Islamist ideology that inspires Hamas and other factions, while never giving Israel the benefit of the doubt."[51] In April 2004, Natan Sharansky who was then Israel's minister for diaspora affairs wrote to the BBC accusing its Middle East correspondent, Orla Guerin, as having a "deep-seated bias against Israel" following her description of the Israeli army's handling of the arrest of Hussam Abdu, who was captured with explosives strapped to his chest, as "cynical manipulation of a Palestinian youngster for propaganda purposes."[52] In March 2006 a report about the Arab-Israeli conflict on the BBC's online service was criticised in a BBC Governors Report as unbalanced and creating a biased impression. The article's account of a 1967 United Nations resolution about the six-day war between Israel and a coalition of Egypt, Jordan and Syria suggested the UN called for Israel's unilateral withdrawal from territories seized during the six-day war, when in fact, it called for a negotiated "land for peace" settlement between Israel and "every state in the area". The committee considered that by selecting only references to Israel, the article had breached editorial standards on both accuracy and impartiality".[53] On 7 March 2008, news anchor Geeta Guru-Murthy clarified significant errors in the BBC's coverage of the Mercaz HaRav massacre that had been exposed by media monitor Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America. Correspondent Nick Miles had informed viewers that "hours after the attack, Israeli bulldozers destroyed his [the perpetrator's] family home." This was not the case and other broadcasters showed the east Jerusalem home to be intact and the family commemorating their son's actions.[54]

You are being quite insulting and personal when all I've done is express support for Israel. Also, if I was really a Jew wanting to hide it, don't you think I've got enough brain cells to not post anything which would indicate that was the case? Sorry, but there is no conspiracy or cover-up here.

You're the turd.

My support for Israel is based on understanding history, not on any religious nonsense. I also support Basque and Kurdish national self-determination. Are you going to accuse me of being a Basque or Kurd next?

That is not reality. That is just an ignorant, ahistorical, revisionist, fictional and dejudaised summary of events.

You're right, why can't people just get along? I do love horses, actually, and they are my friends. Jews fighting to retain their homeland might be based on biblical mythology for the religious, but even Atheists -- and Deists like myself -- must acknowledge that it is also based on archaeology, the historical record, and actual reality. I'm aware of no contradictions. "I am not Jewish" is not rubbish, it's the truth. Do you want to see my birth certificate?

You're right -- no matter how patient or tenacious you are, anti-semitism is totally lost on me; I'm irrevocably philo-semitic.

You Zionist, Anti-Semite, Islamophobe*!!!!! Fuckwit. (*delete as applicable) Fixed. Thanks, TJ. You're welcome.