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But there not a small company, there bigger than the SP

The thing is, apart from the supermarkets, mezeron may well have took a few extre bookings that used to go on the steam packet back to ramsey with them, they can still ship containers in for anybody that wants them, yes it may not be everyday, but that can allways be planned around. And the amount of free advertisment they got from this little stunt will be worth a hell of a lot to them,

That could be because some of us have work todo in the day and cant sit on a computer all day doing sod all well as the steam packet had to re organize new prices with most of the companys that use them to safe gaurd there shipping, and no dowt graylaw got a good price drop, and that graylaw and mezeron were at the start of this new route, Then i would say they prob did what they started out to do

I think you have been confussed, maybe these points will make u see stright no the SP charge the £1200, or should i say around the £1000 mark, mezeron are cheaper than the SP, so no they wont be bcak using the ben my chree, How do my maths not add up, please shyow exsample. and yes my arguements do stand up. To be fair i have no idea what mezeron charge for the douglas services, But i do know that they charge about £400-500 a 20ft flat, And have heard of £800 for a 40ft trailer, which would be about right.

Noboody knows that, maybe Mr barrat would have done the same thing, who knows, which ever way it is, Mr barratt is not here, Mr Barrat can not decide what is best for his compnay, and in respect I see this as quite a harsh thing to say on a public fourm where to be honest your just saying somebodys opion on the matter, which could be vary well unfounded and untrue, but vary upsetting for family members to read. lack of respect to the deceased and the living in my book,

well do the maths on a trailer at £1200 one way, and you tell me how i got my figures, do it on the 17 trailers a day, thats a nice little earner, yes the ferry is not that much but thats what companys charge say u and me to ship a triler out. now even if you do it on £800 a trailer which has been said what the sp charged, between 800-1000 a trip, them figures soon add up.

how many wagons a day from tescos, and the 3 million is one way not both, so you can go 6 million if you like, not including the xmas or orther busy times and this is on the min amount per day,

What are your thoughts there then? I'm interested purely as it 'appears' that Graylaw has some sort of link with Stobarts... i.e. Both logos on containers... More info please... Yes the Stobarts link is really with Tesco. If you look at the containers, the 'Graylaw' logo is rather fresh compared to the others. The expansion in Mezeron's activities has been 'bank rolled' by a certain haulier. Yes, technically it is Mezeron / Doehle, but they were not the driving force in setting this larger LO-LO service up. It was rather the other way around. not surprised really at the price they were being charged, but they have a few million to play with till they start losing over the sp, just with the 1 contract alone let alone all the other stuff they bring in, with tescos worth at least 3 million a year in shipping alone, thats a lot of cash to play with

i guess you must be privy to there costing and everything then Im sure as hell think the owners will lose out as well. What you think they just go o well who cares, Who knows they may well have everything at stake on this.

I dont see mezeron taking a financial hit, if anything i would say the isle of man side will prob see a good increase in revenue, yes i see the SP taking a big hit. But if they were run normaly without this huge debt, then services should not be effected because they would be able to compeate with them, And this is the point, its all about the loan, thats all its ever been about, it has northing to do with the people, the company the workers, its all about the owners being able to keep there ass out of the fire. let them burn they stoked the fire for so long and took the piss for even longer that they only have themselfs to blame.

Thats not mezerons fault is it. And like we all said in the past the SP problems is not because of mezeron, but because of the loans, with out the loans it would not be a problem

But does not mezeron offring the service cheaper, show the slagging off about SP prices, was valid

well as the index for shipping goods, or should i say the cost to hire theses ships, has dropped to a vary low lvl since they first hired them, who knows we could see mezeron dropping there costs even more!! These type of ships occupy a specialised niche. The general indices may not fully apply or be relevant. These are such tiny ships. Unless one wants to cause more trouble for the Steampacket with a view to knocking them out the usual tack at this stage is to make more money off lower rates. In order to really get the price of such tonnage ans future market indications one has to consult a short-sea or coastal broker in much the same way as one asks the odds from a Bookie! hmm lets see, big ships move big items or lots of items, this price gos down if the amounts of items to be shipped drops. so less things to move, which would mean less things getting brought, we still need to ship things here in a SMALLER ship, so does have a knock on effect to the price