horatiotheturd

Which bit of "as a direct result " is hard to understand? Have you listened to the last two briefings?

Go on then. Evidence that I am wrong and there are more than single figures who have ended up in hospital as a direct result of this last COVID outbreak, and that the measures and the impact on people like Roxanne and loads of others is justified. £50 to a charity of anyones choice if they can give absolute concrete proof by 21:00

Give over. I was being attacked for being me me me and I countered it with some facts. Noone knows who I am or what I and my family or my staff are doing so commenting about it on here makes no difference to anything. I have gone into any details. If I did you might feel like a bit of a dick to be honest. Still waiting for evidence of how many are genuinely really ill in this latest outbreak btw

You know nothing about me but I would bet a big clock that I and my family have done more to help others out during this nightmare than you have. Financially and practically I would bet another big clock that that is despite you still being on full pay?

I am running up personal and business debt left right and centre to try and avoid my staff suffering too much. Fortunes of it. As are many many others

So how many have ended up ill enough to need hospital treatment? If someone can give concrete evidence that it is making lots of people really ill then I might change my tune. Noone has because noone can (I am talking now on the iom. Not other non comparable parts of the world or the UK last year.)

Less than the "in hospital" figures they quote on the website? Well, apart from DA confirming today and in the last briefing that those figures also include people who tested positive on admission for something else and the fact that he confirmed that it includes people who contracted COVID while receiving treatment in UK hospitals but that it wansn't the cause of admission. Plus apart from knowing personally one of the COVID in hospital from lockdown 2 who contracted it on a hospital visit to UK but didn't even know they had it other than a test pre admission for ongoing care on their return to Nobles. Apart from those clear facts that prove the figures are inflated, then no you have got me, I don't have any other evidence (apart from having spoken to staff at nobles. It's 4 or 5 tops, and some have already been discharged. They need to make these figures more clear as the reality is not what people imagine from hearing "16 in hospital"

That's a no then 😂

I have regard for the thousands who are suffering due to the lockdown. Are you still bringing home the same as you normally do? I am also technically in the vulnerable category myself and booked in later this week for a jab. I would still rather not be stuck at home

Do you have evidence of it being more?

Shame we didn't vaccinate them all more quickly and starting before Christmas instead of sitting on thousands of doses then. We wouldn't have needed to lockdowm

You seem very scared of a virus which as far as I can make out, despite ravaging our schools and wider community has resulted in about 4 or 5 hospital admissions.

So before the vulnerable were vaccinated and not relevant to March 2021. Cheers

Are those figures from pre or post the existence of the vaccines and the much better understanding of treatments? We aren't in the same place we were last year.

OK another question. How many of those Symptomatic would have known they were ill without a positive test. "Hi Sharon from Facebook, its superted from 111. I am afraid you have tested positive for COVID following being identified as a high risk individual. Can I ask if yiu have had any symptoms? Er, well, I sneezed on Tuesday. That's a yes then, thanks" Would she have called 111 with the "symptoms" if she wasn't being tested and had to go out and earn a living? Its a big fat no. The ONLY relevant statistics is those who have ended up in Nobles BECAUSE they contracted COVID. They won't tell us what that figure is.