Derek Flint

Not necessarily. See earlier post on low speeds. Tend to be falling in urban areas in any case Rigidity of the safety cell, higher COG, fuctifino! Good thing is much fewer death and serious injury

Depends. It depends on severity whether we'd bother

On island I'd say we went to more than we didn't. In terms of rollover, one happened one snowy day at the bungalow right in front of me. No more than 15 miles per hour, stepped out, clipped a bank and that was it. Modern hatchback too. Subaru laps - put it this way, spectacular though it was, we weren't fans!

One thing I did notice over my career was that cars became more likely to end up on their roof.

It's a high risk occupation and an HSE investigation would look at the reasonableness of the mitigation and circs. Coroner will inevitably decide

That's poor management by the control room. If someone has died or might die, that's how long it often takes They didn't. There's a lot more to that story, and it's rather complicated and long winded!

I answered it. You obfuscated by pinning the date of the Act on it! The reason that roads are closed is because of a modern expectation that staff and the public are reasonably protected from foreseeable risk at work. So when rescuing the trapped, moving kit around and recovering vehicles, the road may be closed. Some incident commanders will have more appetite for risk, but it takes fewer staff to close a road at both ends than run a contraflow or similar. As soon as you have passing vehicles the risk increases. Sometimes evidence collection necessitates closure too. Does that help, or do I need to do a point by point rebuttal? Can I count on your vote Sept 26?

That is a fair point actually Managed many collision scenes? Stick to whatever it is you've got some experience and credibility in, perhaps?

Jesus. The police, rightly or wrongly, were relatively late adopters of the principles of safety at work. See innovations such as body armour, public order helmets, first aid training etc al. Your answer is akin to saying nobody stole anything in 1968. It's the law now, and breaching it gets you seriously fucked over by the HSE.

The first part of the response to any collision is "create and maintain a safe scene". For the duration of that response, it is a place of work, and therefore there is a duty of care to workers and the public. Health and Safety at Work Act 1974 You're welcome

Will you drop me a DM and remind me please? I've checked my messages and have none from 'Barlow' and can't find anything along those lines. That said I might have missed it. Were you posting under another name?

We don't know what we don't know, bit it does seem that the snake oil sellers have been at it again. See below Bollocks Right. There were a couple of jobs I did in the Manx cops; Media And Armed operations command. In the former, we didn't put a release out every time we did something. I'm not saying it is better or worse then or now, but we tried to go about business with minimal impact, and journos were a bit more on the ball. If there was an enquiry, I'd work with them to answer it. If it was sensitive they'd work with us. In the latter, surprisingly it's not an easy gig. But basically it all boils down to information and intelligence, threat and risk, and options and, importantly, contingencies. You can learn all about it here, https://www.college.police.uk/app/armed-policing And then you can become an educated armchair commander rather than a speculator.

Wonder why the cops were tooled up, if indeed they were at all? This is a big deal in terms of the economic reputation

https://www.itv.com/news/granada/2024-04-24/manx-businesses-say-hospitality-sector-is-in-crisis-due-to-rising-costs Made the 6pm ITV NW news. Not a great look

10 quid an item here. I prepay every May. About 100 quid. 3 items a month = big saving