AndyF

I think the EU ultimately chose them, if you mean the 'deadline dates' , with some input from what was then the negotiating team as to if they were acceptable or not. I don't think said team went with a 'we must have date x' demand despite what might of been said. Could be wrong though.

I don't think that would be good news. Left and a bit further left 'mix' , although I did not appreciate the last coalition what with it being a mix of right and far left, both sides at least (in some cases, not all sadly :( ) stopped the other from being too silly.

I've not looked into that yet but somehow it would not surprise me that much.

I'm not terribly keen on another referendum for reasons stated previously however there are a couple of schools of thought on it perhaps if it had to be done. The first would upset the remainers, in that the only options were to leave with a deal or without a deal, aka no remain option ;) The second one would be a choice of three, revoke / leave no deal / leave deal (probably May's deal as that was EU approved) , the thing with this is ideally the result should be immediately locked, as in the losing side(s) , that's it shuttup! We revoke/leave immediately. End of discussion. lol. Have to see how it pans out. I am not too sure I agree on the 'he won't go back' thing you could well be right in that he will simply call an election instead. But he would only be compelled by Parliament to go back , not to accept or agree to anything! Plus the fact the EU could say no (although as you say that's probably unlikely and I agree with this after more thought) , so he could quite well be going and tell them he wants some silly conditions just to make sure they say no, then he returns to parliament having done what the "new law" demanded aka: you must go and ask them.

Twas not my opinion although I could see why it was said. Well I think they are probably (all parties) slightly guilty of a bit of erm 'fact twisting' shall we say... True, I suppose he could ask for something stupid to make sure they just tell him to go away (not exactly that but you see what I mean hopefully) , I think all I was trying to say was the UK parliament if MP's took over and managed to pass whatever they wanted, they can't force the EU to give the UK an extension as all EU states must agree to it...

Hopefully its one of those forms that you don't have to post back and you can just ring an automated number to confirm the listing is correct or not. Then again... Unfortunately regarding Brexit, the BBC News 'paper review' thing a couple of days ago. I can't remember the man's name who was one of the two reviewers however what he said at one point rang true in that: They rejected May's deal three times They took control over Parliament to get their own solutions through None of their solutions passed by themselves, they rejected them all. Five or Six of them iirc They rejected No Deal They rejected No Brexit They do not know what they want. They only know what they *do not* want. No easy solution. A computer would of said "Error: Division by zero " I can in all honesty see why May being forced to take NoDeal off the table did weaken her hand anyway as the EU then knew she had to take within reason what was served up. I'm not convinced what Boris is doing is right however it is likely the only way to get some control back as they (Parliament) know he will really do it. The plans they have for Tuesday, well even if they did manage to force his hand and force him by law to go back to the EU to ask for an extension, there is no guarantee at all they would give us any extension. I think Macron was not too keen last time ? , and iirc all states must agree to it too. So the UK MP's are in a slight mess of their own making here, they can pass what laws they like but the extension decision rests with the EU. The only alternative is to revoke I suppose. Apparently that can be done without penalty regardless of how much the EU has spent on Brexit stuff, as the UK has too. The other choice, another referendum well that seems a bit like "you need to keep voting until we get the result we want" , what if the result was the same with a narrow 'leave' again ? Or worse still a narrow 'remain' ? Best of three ? It would be in a way a bit of a travesty to have another vote. A neighbour did actually say something a few weeks ago that stuck in my mind (and he voted to remain) he basically said that if the referendum had gone the other way and the remain had one by a tiny tad, the leave/brexit people would of been banished forever never to be heard again. Because it went for them the remainers are piping up all the time. Alt would be an election I suppose but at the moment I can see it being quite similar to how it is now after, with a tiny majority Cons govt returned or a Lab gov with a tiny majority. A coalition would not be a million miles away I suppose. The last one although quite disgraceful in many respects did mean some good (imo) in that the hardline Cons 'right' could not get all their way as the Lib-Dems's stopped them and vice versa in that the Lib-Dems' extreme left did not get their stuff either as the Con's put the brakes on it.

1. Similar to the 'great firewall' but for news/tv/media I guess. I'm not surprised though somehow. If that's a good or bad thing I don't honestly know. 2. Would suspect there is truth in it but also my first thought was once my brain had translated it different media outlets reporting differing things. Mind you with ( 2 ) having watched say BBC/ITV news then watched the equivalent(ish) RT "UK News" (not their generic one) on what vaguely passes for 'Freeview TV' these days, it does seem a bit different...

I was thinking the H.K police have been generally very restrained in their erm 'approach' to all this, despite it all. People marching about with banners and the like is one thing (even if said protest was banned) however throwing bricks / petrol bombs at the police is quite another. They do have quite a bit to complain about though I can see that in some ways but turning it nasty is not the solution never has been really same with wars. I wonder if it is a bit like (over here, yes I know I'm in Derby, England, long story) people protesting about Parliament etc today, how long before it turns a tad nasty. The point I think I'm trying (very badly) to make here is some of the "protesters" are not there to protest merely there to cause trouble.

Thanks both! :) :) Yes it is on my ever-expanding '*sigh* "to do" list :D

This is a subject I probably should really be more 'into' but its a case of never really having had the time for it or been in the right (erm, 'learning' I suppose) mind-frame. So much to look/read/learn about with it too. I would like for instance to know more about the outer planets, Neptune for instance as well as Pluto*** *** Not a planet anymore , although I heard they were on about changing its status again ? It was however very interesting to see those pics of Pluto a while back, I think it caught them out how much there really was going on compared to what they had likely expected. EDIT... First post, so " Hello All ! "