display name Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 On 1/31/2020 at 4:35 PM, John Wright said: Edges Corner was the first corner to be given a riders name. apart from Brandish,Birkin's bend and Guthries etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 10 minutes ago, display name said: apart from Brandish,Birkin's bend and Guthries etc Go on, I’ll rise to the bait. Edges is alleged to have been named in 1920. If that’s true it’s well before Brandish 23/4 Birkin’s 27/8 Guthries 37/8 Doran’s 50/51 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
display name Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 I assume you'd read that on wikipedia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 As I say, if it’s true... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
display name Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 10 minutes ago, John Wright said: As I say, if it’s true... Fair comment. I could bore you with details of circuit history.but I deal with enough of those regularly. Tonight is a night off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silja Posted February 1, 2020 Author Share Posted February 1, 2020 Brandish Corner or O'Donnell's Corner. Named after Walter Brandish who broke a leg here in 1923 which ended his racing career. Birkin's Bends/Rhencullen. Archie Birkin crashed and was killed here 1927. Guthrie's Memorial. Jimmy Guthrie, 6 times TT winner in the 1930s. Killed in German GP, August 1937. The memorial on the right is built at the point where he retired in his last TT-race. Doran's Bend. Bill Doran twice second in TT races in the 1940s and 50s. He spilled here and broke a leg at practice in 1950. The lower engine bolt came adrift, lifted the front wheel and the crash was a fact. Handley's. Walter Leslie Handley, 4 times TT winner in the 1920s and 30s. Dead in World War 1941 in a flight accident. Bend named after he came unstuck here 1932 when trying to catch the two works Nortons ahead of him in the Senior. Some quotes from my site http://siljasttknowledge.blogspot.com All later than 1920! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silja Posted February 1, 2020 Author Share Posted February 1, 2020 The reason why this task came up is that I got a question concerning Edgar’s Corner and a sidecar crash on the TT Course. Se enclosed clip from 1959 TT races. I soon remembered that the sidecar race 1959 took place on the Clypse Course. A map of that course showed a bend named Edge’s Corner on Johnny Watterson’s Lane between Ballanard Road and Cronk-ny-Mona. It’s easy to get the name Edgar’s wrong. On several sites on the net I found that Edge’s Corner is the first corner on the TT Course to get a name from a rider. That happened 1920. I asked for more information about Mr. Edge and here it is! In May 1905 Cecil Edge driving a Napier motor car was engaged in a morning practice session for the forthcoming motor car race and whilst in the process of overtaking another car he crashed into the hedge at full speed. The front of his car was buried three feet into the earth bank. Neither he nor his passenger sustained injury. It would seem that from that point the bend was known as Edge’s Hedge or Edge’s Corner. The reason why he wasn’t in the database for the TT is that he was a driver and not a rider! Racing at St John’s Corse stopped 1910. For some years in the beginning of the TT Course, 1911 – 1920 (there was no racing 1915 – 1919 because of the First World War) the bikes turned right after Hillberry and went on south on Johnny Watterson's Lane passing Edges Corner. Please note in the opposite direction compared to the Clypse Course. The racing direction on Clypse Course was north on Johnny Watterson’s Lane. Later on from 1920 the competitors turned left at Cronk-Ny-Mona and followed Mountain Road to Governor's Bridge with a new start/finish line on Glencrutchery Road. As it is today. Conclusion it is correct to say that Edges Corner for some years was a part of the Mountain Course or as I always call it, The TT Course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silja Posted February 2, 2020 Author Share Posted February 2, 2020 May I add that the details about Cecil Edge's accident comes from local newspapers from that time aviable at the Manx Museum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
display name Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Cheers Silja,that confirms what I was saying. Not the first TT rider to have a corner named after him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 29 minutes ago, display name said: Cheers Silja,that confirms what I was saying. Not the first TT rider to have a corner named after him. TT driver then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxberry Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Glad you got sorted out and the mystery is solved! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
display name Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 hour ago, John Wright said: TT driver then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silja Posted February 2, 2020 Author Share Posted February 2, 2020 Please note, from the beginning I wrote "named after a competitor" Not rider or driver. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
display name Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 18 hours ago, Silja said: Edge’s Corner is the first corner on the TT Course to get a name from a rider. That happened 1920. Now now Silja. Are you over here this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silja Posted February 2, 2020 Author Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 hour ago, display name said: Now now Silja. Are you over here this year? Se my post from Saturday, Posted yesterday at 10:53 AM. "named after a competitor". Later on I wrote rider by mistake and that's what you quoted. Not sure if I come over but it is 50 years since my first visit. Problems at the moment to get an airplane to charter...But I really hope to come for some celebrations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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