The Border Terrier

Is this vessel related? Judging by the TT access road, it's mid to late 80's. TBT.

Don't know if he owned it but certainly had involvement with it when it was the Anchor pub. Before Woodford's timeI think Pacini group were involved in a watersports venture there and tried to make it a sandy beach by depositing tons of the stuff from elsewhere. I think Douglas Corpy sold it late 70's/early 80's to the guy who built the massive catamaran down there about 1985. >...to the guy who built the massive catamaran down there about 1985. This snap from 1986. I think it was a guy called Keig who built it. Related to the Keig's photographers in town? TBT.

Yes, and also the Scarlett and Santon Scooter Scrambling Club - Secretary Steve Stansfield - who aim to resurrect the Hillclimb event of the early 70's. I can remember my elder sister walking us TBT's there across the Pully golf course, past Kewaige school, up past to the 'real' Fairy Bridge, down to the tin shed that sold pop at Oakhill bridge and then along Marine Drive (before the stabit yard was comissioned) down to the Glen. About a 7 mile round trip from Braddan. It really doesn't seem like 45 years ago. Time and Tide... TBT. Edit:sp.

Yanks first to throw a punch. This is going to be financially painful and may yet bring more to light. One wonders if, as in some durisdictions road fund licence is based on emissions, could affected Governments sue for back tax? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35227435 TBT.

> we simply do not have the 21 million required for another rolls royce scheme... I'm concerned the cost of the enquiry, delays and non ordering of the currency is going to exceed the £21M. TBT.

I'm no expert on vehicle emissions so I've entrusted the Governing body (whoever they are) and the manufacturer(s) to conduct the relevant test properly. In the case of VW this hasn't happened. The reasons for this wasn't an error or judgement or ignorance, it was malicious. VW have binned the CEO and admitted their breach of trust with their customers citing the certain engines (specifically diesel) affected across various model ranges including those used by other manufacturers (including Audi/Porsche/Seat/Skoda). And now they've also admitted to falsifying test results for their petrol engines. The result of those tests determined the amount of tax paid to the Government in road fund licence, and various 'Congestion Charges' throughout the world. So as a result, the Government has been deliberately defrauded of revenue by VW. Similarly the emissions figures have been set to prevent global warming, acid rain, premature deaths etc, and VW have deliberately set about a campaign to circumnavigate these regulations by abject dishonesty. Now BigC, I've seen some of your UTube posts and you don't give the impression of a technically incompetent nincompoop to me. But then again, justifying VW's behaviour by suggesting that others may be similarly guilty, indicates to the contrary. TBT.

Gasoline (petrol) engined vehicles also involved in the 'Great VW Scandal'. VW admit they've been falsifying records involving CO2 emissions and fuel economy data on their gasoline models as well as NOx emissions on their diesel models. Upwards of 800K gasoline vehicles involved worldwide. As CO2 emissions determine road fund licence charges in some countries, who pays the 'back tax', vehicle owner or manufacturer? TBT. Edit: sp.

Now it seems VW are cutting their expenditure in the wake of the scandal. Affected Club are self-owned Wolfsburg of the Bundesliga (German Federal League), who had planned a new training facility at a cool £30M. http://www.postbulletin.com/sports/national/soccer/vw-fallout-wolfsburg-postpones-planned-training-center/article_4966301d-1aeb-5b0a-a8b5-10aeedf7a7c8.html The costs set aside by VW for the Emissions Cheating fiasco are in the region of £6.5 billion. TBT.

Looks like VW are the 1st manufacturer to be accused of cheating the emissions test in the US. Speculation has it that the fines could run into $'s Billions as it has 11 million affected vehicles under scrutiny. What say any other manufacturers recall their cars for a 'software upgrade' to eliminate any damning evidence? VW CEO Wintercorn to resign? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/industry/11881819/Volkswagen-live-VW-issues-profit-warning-sets-aside-6.5bn.html Shame, I was about to consider a Polo diesel myself. TBT.

It's a question of trust. Sure some are ill disciplined whose owners aren't aware of the potential for harm, but one just weighs the benefits against the risk. And thankfully I've never had a dog injured by a child in 5 decades. TBT.

Is it an option to go as foot passenger or fly and hire a car across? TBT.

All the numbers in the left column are with rice. And in the right column, with chips. TBT.

On the other hand...their engineers are superb. I've seen the damage 1st hand and it is extensive. The main problem apart from manufacturing the parts for the repairs is removing and installing the kit in an underwater environment. So full marks to the diving team as well. Take it as read that those engineers/technicians on the ground are working tirelessly - there no 'Smartphoners' in the workshops. None with an MBE and probably none on the photographs in next weeks Courier. And I've just seen (17:00, Fri) Mannanan entering Douglas harbour, back from sea trials. TBT.

Skelly, does anybody think he has the business acumen to be trusted with franchising the TT?[/background][/size] No. Because Skelly is a gold-plated, Grade A, twat. Not that Quayle is any better, but could you just imagine what the Health Service would've ended up as if Lol had got his 'heart's desire' and been promoted into it? Quayle has to get the hip waiting list under control and Lol has to franchise the TT before September '16. No excuses. TBT.

>...why do you think someone bought the shares at that price? Because John Whittaker was also in on the deal and they were bamboozled by his proven track record in business. Certainly not because anybody at DED has the business acumen. I mean, Lol (no pun intended) Skelly, does anybody think he has the business acumen to be trusted with franchising the TT? TBT.

No ridiculous is closing it when its covered in a few inches of snow, anybody with winter tyres fitted could get over the mountain road easy, 4x4's fitted with multi terrain tyres would also get over it with ease. Basically its closed because people cannot be trusted to drive sensibly in snow/ice conditions and fail to realise that summer tyres are just that. Not just car drivers that can't be trusted. A few years back the gritter took a tumble too. Be careful out there. TBT.

> ...that they have to undertake a safety awareness course that demonstrates the dangers as like the Fire Brigade used to do. The Fire Brigade may not be best placed to lecture on safety... Tragic circumstances regarding the loss of life; but I don't think there's anything to be gained by increasing the custodial sentence. It may be a smart move to advocate a life term if he repeats the same behaviour once released. TBT.

The leap of logic in the above is that you consider all advice to be independent. This isn't the case, the interests are well known and declared up front. In fact the government is party to it also, because it's invested into Pinewood itself to benefit from that bias. If I go to see an independent adviser, my expectation is that they are going to show me a range of products. If I go to see the adviser who works for my bank, my expectation is that they will guide me to products from that bank. >If I go to see an independent adviser, my expectation is that they are going to show me a range of products. And then he'll steer you toward the product offering him the best commission. Not quite so independent as we're led to believe. TBT.

>It will certainly put financial pressure onto some of the smaller or medium local authorities on the island. Why not...double the housing rents? Then offer a 50% discount to pensioners, single occupant properties, low income tenants etc. Homes with two or more wage earners at or above the national average, with a Sky dish, motorhome, 4-wheel drive and a jet ski (or any combination thereof) aren't eligible for a rebate. The reason why such a solution won't be proposed is that, you'd be voted out at the next election... That's one proposal, what do you suggest? TBT.

>Also, wiped to a none IT person is deleting or maybe formatting the drive, this is NOT wiped, As Colonel Oliver North and the late Dr Harold Shipman will testify. TBT.

Sorry, I'm not about to edit in your words to my post. I mean, a remarkable effort and marks for tenacity etc...maybe if you could phone a friend? TBT.

Let it go... TBT.

Confusing one of the founding fathers of computer science and a true polymath with a ManxForums creative writer who lets his dog pee on shop signs. Don't think so. >Confusing one of the founding fathers of computer science... But as Dr Turing was so well established with Enigma, you may forgive my incorrect conclusion. >Perhaps you meant enigma rather than anathema? In the words of Sir Neville Marriner when his charges were apt to interpret his arrangement incorrectly, "If you'd be so kind as to play the notes in the order in which they're written. I know exactly what I mean here, I should do, as I wrote it!" >...who lets his dog pee on shop signs. Both the terriers have annointed that sign. Jeez, it must stink to high heaven when its put away in the shop for the night. I wonder if anybody disinfects it, it being a food store and all? But seriously, let it go BobbieB', being part of 'The Pavement Police' the terriers will object to anything that could adversely influence safe passage of partially sighted pedestrians. I mean, a sandwich board slap bang in the middle of the pavement...has accident written all over it (no pun intended). TBT.

Why was it closed? It was closed for months for repairs wasn't it around that time? I could well be wrong though. >It was closed for months for repairs... The road wasn't closed at the point of the accident, which was around 500 metres east of the Sulby Dam Car Park - uphill toward The Bungalow. There would have been reduced traffic though, as it was closed to through traffic from The Bungalow to the Sulby Hotel. I'd advocate a (long) custodial sentence on account he's less liable to cause society any problems from a locked cell. He's had his chances already and shown no interest in taking them. Desperately sad for the family and friends of the deceased, I really feel for them. TBT.

Nothing personal ref: Ms Bettridge, I'd dislike anybody that set sail on a boat that they knew wasn't safe. My taxes would have to fund the helicopter/lifeboat sent out to rescue those needing help post sinking. TBT. Perhaps you meant enigma rather than anathema? I think perhaps you may be confusing me with Dr Alan Turing OBE, FRS (1912-54). An easy mistake, he's from Wilmslow and myself Glen Wyllin. TBT.