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This reminds me of a little game we used to play in the army, On payday a group of us would each sign a pound note and go to different bars in the garrison and buy a pint with it, the winner was the first one of us to get a signed note in his change after 2 days had passed and the person who signed the note had to buy the winner a 12 pack of beer.

Have to admit I am with you on this I still refer to it as Preston poly winds my 2 up no end, and yes when it first got uni status most in Lancashire refered to it as UCL due to the fact in that time not many up north gave a shit about London.

I am afraid you are misquoting I said the course to get the specific degree he wished but no matter that one finally got the one he wanted, yes to me UCL means uni central lancs but no matter uclan if you wish, at the time he was there as I stated no other bar ucl or uclan to you offered specific 3d design not 3d not just cad it is an entirely different animal. but I suppose you are the expert on all courses and know the specifics on what they both wanted. No more comment needed as my main argument was about the fact of unemployment this thread is not about specific courses, there is enough hyjacking of threads going on without another

Of course I havn't, I got off my arse and found work instead. You wouldn't see the respect in earning enough to keep yourself rather than scrounge of others would you? after all if you have no self respect you wouldn't think twice about taking money out of the pockets of others who have worked for it would you?

Masters level courses in engineering are usually (near 100% in my experience) add on vocational courses that are seen as supplying a specific set of skills for a particular industry and with few exceptions had to be self supporting in terms of fees + student numbers - I ran a very successful one for many years - there was an industrial advisory panel which helped steer the direction - we offered a number of streams based on a mix of core subjects and options whch changed from one year to the next with the choice of options giving the specific degree title- each option required a minimum number of students signed up for it in order for it to run (especially for the first year it ran or if it was one one that needed expensive dedicated equipment to support it) - if the number of applicants did not match this minimal number then the course was not run - such occurances were rare but essential for generally cash strapped universities - the course advertising always made this clear. It sounds very much to me that UCL (generally regarded as a high status college) did not get the minimal number for a new course which as suggested by your comments was also not seen as viable by other universities - Cranfield often provided such highly specialised courses but their fee structure was often twice that of other universities. I thought that was what I said, i.e. it was dropped at the end of the first year, the question is I cannot see why uni's advertise oversubscribed courses when they fail to advertise properly courses which they know will be under subscribed, maybe because as you say they get more for bums on seats than for doing courses industry needs, great society when we have thousands of travel management and the like graduates but we struggle to find an engineer or even enough plumbers come to that. As for your comments about not being viable, please explain how the situation where there are 17 jobs for every graduate does not make a viable argument for govt funding, unless of course getting high numbers through uni on easier courses makes a better spin for higher education figures. BTW 3d mechanical engineering designed was deemed to be a masters due to the higher number of blocks required to make it viable.

Off topic, but which university was this? They don't usually close down courses with people still on them, they just close applications for the next year and run the degree until all current undergraduates have completed their studies. If, for whatever reason, they can't do this, then they typically arrange for a place to be allocated to their students at a different university. At any rate, why didn't your son just transfer to a different university? The course was merged with motor sport engineering and was at UCL he was given the choice of doing that of sod off, no other uni at the time was doing a 3D cad mechanical engineering design masters course.

Even those who are not intelligent should find a menial job to be beneath them when it comprises of their productive life (full-time job). Why should someone feel they should waste their mind and time being stupid doing something menial day in and day out. It's called self respect in recognising you should do better. Simple answer LDV do the work or starve, I care not, just don't expect me to support your sponging lifestyle no matter what work I do. To add I would say from experience you feel more self respect earning whatever money you get rather than be a sponger off the state, let's put it this way I am a lot higher qualified than you but have done some real shit jobs at times to keep money coming in, but never have I scrounged off the state and I am proud of that.

Its no different to what's happening in the UK. The good times are over so what you get is a bunch of ill educated dickheads blaming everyone else for the fact that a bunch of ill educated dickheads can't get jobs anymore. Its not rocket science. Its very sad. Its not nationalism its protectionism on the basis that job opportunities for inbeciles tend to dry up in recessions. I would say a lot of times it can be the opposite, i.e. a bunch of over educated dickheads who think they are too good for menial jobs blaming everyone else for the fact they have no jobs anymore because companies cannot afford to now take on the higher paid/educated dickheads and the only jobs open to them are menial ones they think are beneath them. Remember job opportunities for the higher paid over educated also tend to dry up in a recession, after all we always need shit cleaners, refuse collectors, drivers, shop assistants, etc, but over paid investment bankers are fuck all use when nobody has spare cash. But in saying that I suppose with the type of degrees a lot come out of uni with I suppose ill educated dickheads fits good, after all what use is a degree in Roman architecture, media studies or travel and hospitality management when there is on average 1 position for every 70 graduates on the subject. This I say from some experience, my sons engineering degree was dropped due to lack of numbers, luckily he is now with an employer who is paying for him to complete it independently, whilst at the same uni they increased the numbers doing media studies travel and other such over subscribed courses, as someone said before we need good engineers, doctors, scientists etc not bank full of graduates of ancient Mongolian basket weaving. maybe this recession will teach those higher up to invest in the right type of education for our kids to ensure the future of industry and science before it all disappears to China or some third world country, Strix being a fine example, most is now in China due to the unavailability of skills here, then look at the length of time the adverts for stress engineers and cnc engineers has been in the job centre, why? because nobody is training them, universities are closing courses for them down, yet if an ad for travel management or a media position went in the job centre requiring a degree in the subject, over half the islands banking investment junior staff would be applying. Ok rant over no bugger will listen anyway.

All credit to Mony Python: Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving And revolving at nine hundred miles an hour, That's orbiting at nineteen miles a second, so it's reckoned, A sun that is the source of all our power. The sun and you and me and all the stars that we can see Are moving at a million miles a day In an outer spiral arm, at forty thousand miles an hour, Of the galaxy we call the 'Milky Way'. Our galaxy itself contains a hundred billion stars. It's a hundred thousand light years side to side. It bulges in the middle, sixteen thousand light years thick, But out by us, it's just three thousand light years wide. We're thirty thousand light years from galactic central point. We go 'round every two hundred million years, And our galaxy is only one of millions of billions In this amazing and expanding universe. The universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding In all of the directions it can whizz As fast as it can go, at the speed of light, you know, Twelve million miles a minute, and that's the fastest speed there is. So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure, How amazingly unlikely is your birth, And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space, 'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth.

He tried to smuggle drugs, he got caught, he got found guilty by the courts, he was given the punishment due for his crime in the country he committed it, he was executed under the letter of that nations law, end of story and if it prevents others smuggling and causing death misery and pain that addiction brings to addicts and their families then the deterrent worked. No matter what anyone says the deed is now done and nothing will change that.

I do not agree with China's methods of punishment for even minor stuff nor it's oppression of its people or the population of countries it rules over, but when it comes to drug smuggling if you do this with full knowledge and for gain not due to force or blackmail etc then tough you take what is coming to you in whatever nation you get caught in.

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It depends who gets felt and by whom

I say lets turn it into a monorail station with a Burger King, Pizza Hut/Land and an Argos underneath.

Na, that's just a convenient excuse. I think most of the bad feeling towards cyclists comes from drivers thinking the roads belong to them and not other users. I have to disagree, I will give cyclists who obey the highway code and rules of the road the respect that they deserve i.e. give them room and be aware of them, its arseholes like that who do give cyclists a bad name and I have no time or respect for.

Easy solution put it in all the spaces where Lloyds staff park illegally all day it will save them changing the time on thier parking disc every hour

My view is we pull out and let the fuckers kill each other off.

Oh I see, now you threaten us with your return

Could be an interesting future, I wonder if the following could ever happen? Summerhill site after geological survey is found to be unsafe to build on so lots of people disappointed. Hilton found to have structural faults and needs to be demolished. Castle Mona has a misterious and unexpected fire that destroys it and the Cinema. Someone comes along and says "I've got a good idea let's now build the Wave on the old Hilton/Castle Mona site". Oh everyone says what a good idea lets rush through planning so everyone can enjoy it. Not that anyone would expect this to ever happen

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OY! Sod off! I walk my dog along there! Ah so you now admit to dogging on Marine Drive

20 years ago just after 10:15pm this evening I stood with many other men some the hardest roughest men in the north sea, all of us stood on the top deck of the Tartan platform weeping as we watched the Piper Alpha explode hearing its tortured scream as it took 167 of our fellow oil workers lives, within a few hours men continualy openly wept as the bodies started being lifted onto our platform, yet not one man declined to help bring them on board and all was treated with dignity, nobody slept that night. The 6th of July 1988 was a night the whole north sea fell silent, many of us saw and heard an event that would stay with us and effect us for the rest of our lives. So sorry to bore you all but i just wish to remember them. Please read the survivors poem at the bottom as you look at the pictures. The Death of a Piper by John Fyvie a survivor Come in standby vessel it’s Alpha sixteen it’s a comfort to know that your there on the scene I’ve a desperate feeling this midsummer’s night there’s a stillness unusual something’s not right the dayshift is sleeping the hour is nine there's a valve that is missing on a high pressure line the stillness is broken what a terrible howl demented and rabid like wolves on the prowl the gas is escaping now fire teams wait there’s a call for a muster but I fear it’s to late an inferno is raging God! I’m all alone the steel it’s melting like the flesh from our bones Look here comes the "Tharos" but it’s doing no good the black smoke engulfs us like a hanging mans hood Oh! the fire it is spreading and panic is rife a scaffolder cries out and jumps for his life there’s men going crazy and screaming in pain the sound of the dying it’s driving me insane up in the derrick a roughneck in vain cries for his mother to come ease his pain another explosion! That makes it three the quarters we live in slide into the sea inside men a weeping not really in fear the thoughts that torment them are the folks they hold dear