the stinking enigma Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36138337 the cover up and blatant lies told by those in authority over this tragic accident should shame them forever. the collusion between the highest parts of the british government, the police and the sun newspaper is something gerry would dismiss as too ridiculous. quite eye opening really. http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/apr/26/how-the-suns-truth-about-hillsborough-unravelled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alibaba Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 27 years to be told what everyone knew anyway, the police are a bunch of lying cunts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted April 26, 2016 Author Share Posted April 26, 2016 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3559873/Margaret-Thatcher-s-press-secretary-Sir-Bernard-Ingham-described-Liverpool-fans-tanked-yobs-letter-Hillsborough-campaigners-refuses-apologise.html an unbelievable set of eyebrows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarne Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Such a waste of time and a 'feel good' piece. One bit I saw on the news was 'the matchgoers were blameless' - no, they still crushed people to death in order to watch some men kick a ball. They might not have known what they were doing but there is still blame there on them too. Management failings and police failings yes, but the police didn't crush anyone to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paswt Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 the verdict that the jury came to seems to differ from your own Tarne , you are either being gratuitously mischievous or a troll. hope this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marauder Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Tarne pretty much nailed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Such a waste of time and a 'feel good' piece. One bit I saw on the news was 'the matchgoers were blameless' - no, they still crushed people to death in order to watch some men kick a ball. They might not have known what they were doing but there is still blame there on them too. Management failings and police failings yes, but the police didn't crush anyone to death. Are you being deliberately obtuse, trying to provoke some sort of reaction? Yes, the police did not individually crush anyone to death. However, as has been finally confirmed, their actions specifically created the situation where it occurred. I speak as someone who actually has respect for the police (it is a job I would never had the balls to do and my own brother is a high ranking officer in the UK) but the only conclusion to take from today's verdict is that there was a systematic failure by those responsible for public safety and that lead to death of 96 innocent people. Those failures were covered by lies. Nothing will bring those people back but at least there should be no question in any logical person's mind that they were responsible for their own deaths. To think otherwise is pitiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Tarne pretty much nailed it Just for once why don't try stop being a weapons grade troll. You're not even being an original one in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marauder Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Tarne pretty much nailed it Just for once why don't try stop being a weapons grade troll. You're not even being an original one in this thread. And that opinion of yours matters to me? You'll need to try a lot harder than that. Tarne is still right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 I avoid reading bad news so I haven't paid much attention to it so I don't know what the latest is. I remember being a young kid typing out an essay on Hillsborough for a relative who couldn't type and the general gist of it was that it was one big fuck up compounded by fuck ups. That was quite a while ago so why has it only just been officially recognised as a fuck up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarne Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Sorry you've misunderstood me. the police and govt lies were terrible and I'm glad that has come out but that's not what I'm referring to. I'm referring to the specific bit that the fans were not to blame. They were. A court case doesn't change the fact they crushed people to death at a football match. Its just words to make the court cases stop. But they won't. The lawyers will milk this for years to come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Shake me up Judy Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 I doubt the full truth of what happened that day will ever be told. Questions such as: What would have happened outside the ground if the fans hadn't been let in ? The Liverpool fans have now got the result they wanted but this won't be the last of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 . That's a nice dot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Tarne pretty much nailed it Just for once why don't try stop being a weapons grade troll. You're not even being an original one in this thread. And that opinion of yours matters to me? You'll need to try a lot harder than that. Tarne is still right. Just try thinking about it for a moment. I have no connection to families involved with Hillsborough, nor Liverpool FC, but I can understand the overwhelming pain that must come from having a family member not return from an everyday normal activity. To then be told that they were effectively responsible for their own deaths can only have multipied that pain. Can't you understand that? You say you agree with Tarne, who appears to be ignoring the findings of the inquiry today and still wanting to attribute blame to the fans. No doubt you don't really care, equally I don't really care that you don't care but low grade trolling by simply saying that the first troll is right is just pathetic. I'll say no more on the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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