TheTeapot Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 " your last sentence in that quote is possibly phrased with the assistance of White Lightning cider, " Good post there TheBastard, not taking any shit. I am intrigued by the run off from the raggart myself, they've got that hatch in the wall where you frequently see a tanker. Was the whole site lined in some way so that all the run off collects there or does a lot of it just soak down into the water table anyway? I don't know how long it was a landfill site for but it was a while ago that it closed and I'd imagine that restrictions on what could be dumped probably weren't as strict as they might be now, so you'd think there is some pretty horrible stuff under the ground there. Then again quite a lot of horrible stuff got chucked down the old mines too. We as a species have been pretty rough on the world really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 The Raggat tip closed in the mid/late 80s after being described as "an environmental disaster" by somebody in a Tynwald inquiry. Life must have been terrible for local residents. I can remember the roads and woodland approaching the area being strewn with windblown plastic bags and litter, Lord knows what it was like actually in there and we certainly weren't as selective in those days about what could and couldn't be dumped. There's certainly a lot of ground vents and warning signage installed at the site and samples are regularly taken. Tipping then moved to the old sand quarry pits at the Point of Ayre with much of the same policy, animal waste, asbestos, you name it. But it was out of the way up there and Bride residents were more ignorable. I think it's one reason we should be glad for the incinerator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 Asbestos and the like is still dumped at the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 12 minutes ago, finlo said: Asbestos and the like is still dumped at the point. I can remember one incident, early 90s when a wagon with an uncovered/insecure load left a trail of animal waste on the Mountain Mile on its way to the Point. During the ensuing court case against the driver a furore erupted as it emerged that the Govt Dept (DHPP?) at the time were moving the animal waste to the tip at night under cover of darkness so the General Public wouldn't know. The spillage concerned was encountered by commuters the following morning. One lady I knew hit "something" on the Mountain Rd and had trouble thereafter selecting gears on her Fiesta. She left the car at E.B. Christians - who put it on a lift and removed half a pig's head from the gear linkage..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 17 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: I can remember one incident, early 90s when a wagon with an uncovered/insecure load left a trail of animal waste on the Mountain Mile on its way to the Point. During the ensuing court case against the driver a furore erupted as it emerged that the Govt Dept (DHPP?) at the time were moving the animal waste to the tip at night under cover of darkness so the General Public wouldn't know. The spillage concerned was encountered by commuters the following morning. One lady I knew hit "something" on the Mountain Rd and had trouble thereafter selecting gears on her Fiesta. She left the car at E.B. Christians - who put it on a lift and removed half a pig's head from the gear linkage..... I've witnessed convoys of trucks going there in the middle of the night back in the 90s, police escort too if I recall, makes you wonder what's buried up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Trumps Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 Bad stuff, very bad stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bastard Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 The 28th June 2016 session of Tynwald covered the discharges from the Raggatt : http://www.tynwald.org.im/business/hansard/20002020/k160628.pdf Steve Rodan provided a run-down of the pollutants from the Raggatt, which he said are discharged via the sewage outfall into Peel bay, rather than entering the marina via the Neb. "Levels of a range of metals, ammonia, polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs) and 225 polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs) identified in the leachate draining from the Raggatt facility, exceed relevant environmental quality standards and make it unsuitable for direct discharge to the River Neb. PAHs are products of the derogation of burning of hydrocarbon fuels such as coal, oil and petrol. PCBs are a group of organic compounds used in the manufacture of plastics, as 230 lubricants, protective coatings and dielectric fluids and transformers." So the major concern from the Raggatt is principally the modern nasties PAHs and PCBs, which you'd expect from a 20th century waste site. Mr. Rodan suggested that there were plans in progress to look at disposal of the PCBs via treatment at Meary Veg and subsequent incineration. Whilst Mr. Rodan identifies "metals" in the range of pollutants, discharge takes place into the bay, rather than into the Neb, so the Raggatt would be an unlikely source for the heavy metal contamination there. Pretty much backs up the academic studies which suggest historic mine spoil is to blame - the "deads" themselves had approximately 7% lead in the analysis, which is pretty significant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speak The Truth Posted September 12, 2017 Author Share Posted September 12, 2017 http://www.iomtoday.co.im/article.cfm?id=35892&headline=Tuesday is news day: The Examiner reports on waste oozing out of former tip§ionIs=NEWS&searchyear=2017 Mmmmmm? Cant say I didn't mention this before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 There were actually two questions about this topic from Crookall[1] at the July Tynwald. One oral question asking if Harmer will make a statement on the continuing issue of not being able to dredge Peel Marina? And a written one to Boot Since 2000 how many times the silt in Peel harbour marina has been tested; what the results of the tests were; and who carried out the tests and at what cost? The original reply included a long report on tests done in 2013, though that's now been taken out to a separate document. [1] As the two Ministers involved are the members for Peel, presumably he's the only person who can do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homarus Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Question of silt disposal raised again - Manx Radio.html This!! Pre formed square interlocking concrete stabit foundation stones dropped into the marine at low water ,starting at the road bridge and working down towards the loch gates.in tandem with dredging operations . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc.fixit Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 ..they were told the consequences of damming a river when they decided to build this ridiculous edifice...........now it is just a white elephant costing a fortune to maintain..............maybe it would have helped if they hadn't sold the dredger?................there have been quite a few incidents at Douglas as well............why don't they listen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 43 minutes ago, doc.fixit said: ..they were told the consequences of damming a river when they decided to build this ridiculous edifice...........now it is just a white elephant costing a fortune to maintain..............maybe it would have helped if they hadn't sold the dredger?................there have been quite a few incidents at Douglas as well............why don't they listen? Because they simply don't understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 46 minutes ago, doc.fixit said: ..they were told the consequences of damming a river when they decided to build this ridiculous edifice...........now it is just a white elephant costing a fortune to maintain..............maybe it would have helped if they hadn't sold the dredger?................there have been quite a few incidents at Douglas as well............why don't they listen? Douglas Harbour had a big enough problem before they built the flapgates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-in-man Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Peel silt, the answer is .. Put it back where near it came from. After storing it for a while, so it leaches back, eventually dries out, and the resulting crud and dust spread all over Peel and the countryside. http://www.iomtoday.co.im/article.cfm?id=44486&headline=Plans unveiled for marina silt disposal§ionIs=NEWS&searchyear=2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, x-in-man said: Peel silt, the answer is .. Put it back where near it came from. After storing it for a while, so it leaches back, eventually dries out, and the resulting crud and dust spread all over Peel and the countryside. http://www.iomtoday.co.im/article.cfm?id=44486&headline=Plans unveiled for marina silt disposal§ionIs=NEWS&searchyear=2018 I bet the good residents of Close Chiarn behind the power station will be delighted. We can call the new area "the Peel Deads". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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