Rog Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 14 minutes ago, pongo said: The arguments are having a direct impact on society - what people believe and how they feel. And, therefore, ultimately on policy makers. Strong international trade bodies (EU, NAFTA etc) are key to forcing change internationally. Ultimately goods from countries which do not comply can be blocked. UN bodies can also have a potential role here - for example in relation to ports and shipping. Blacklists etc. Free trade agreements and standards should always be about ensuring a level playing field. Ever closer international co-operation is essential. The EU can go to hell. We're no longer a part of it. Same with the NAFTA nonsense. That's just of benefit for the USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir nige Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 3 hours ago, doc.fixit said: The Uk ban on coal and un-kiln dried wood sums it all up for me. Ill thought out laws and edicts by folk who've never done a practical thing in their life. Have they even considered the pollution created by kiln drying wood or manufacturing smokeless fuel? Or even the extra transportation come to think of it. the big kiln drying wood importers sat on the govs. panel..........they use old tyres in some of the kilns...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 2 hours ago, pongo said: The arguments are having a direct impact on society - what people believe and how they feel. And, therefore, ultimately on policy makers. Strong international trade bodies (EU, NAFTA etc) are key to forcing change internationally. Ultimately goods from countries which do not comply can be blocked. UN bodies can also have a potential role here - for example in relation to ports and shipping. Blacklists etc. Free trade agreements and standards should always be about ensuring a level playing field. Ever closer international co-operation is essential. That's the funniest thing I've seen in some time. For one thing, if strong international trade bodies which have been around for decades are effective at forcing change internationally, how come virtually everything we use is still made in China which has an appalling record on environmental standards, worker exploitation and just about everything else? Globalisation is not about ensuring a level playing field. It never was. Unfettered capitalism is only interested in sourcing goods wherever they can be made for the lowest dollar, and nothing else enters the equation. The kids might be happy to miss school and march down the streets, but are they prepared to live without their essentials of life such as their personal tech? Not so much. Blacklist China in your dreams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir nige Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 2 hours ago, pongo said: The arguments are having a direct impact on society - what people believe and how they feel. And, therefore, ultimately on policy makers. Strong international trade bodies (EU, NAFTA etc) are key to forcing change internationally. Ultimately goods from countries which do not comply can be blocked. UN bodies can also have a potential role here - for example in relation to ports and shipping. Blacklists etc. Free trade agreements and standards should always be about ensuring a level playing field. Ever closer international co-operation is essential. the eu is not a trade body........ the eu voted for a "climate emergency"......the next vote was to increase the budget on private jets.......it passed...... germany switching from nuclear power to coal has been a co2 output disaster....the eu have done nothing to stop this..... aren't they great...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir nige Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 look at the damage...... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-51696203 all that co2 released for no reason...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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