ballaughbiker

The irony...

Others will arrive at their own conclusions based on what anyone chooses to post

Depends.....if it is combined with contrived and constructed hatred for a start.

NOT to be confused with patriotism

Nationalist and claptrap.

And there's a valid reason why they hate you.

Are the UK not covered by the EU Civil Protection Mechanism emergency flights now? Shit, that wasn't on the ballot paper I never got..... Still, I heard that each coronavirus survivor will receive a commemorative 50p personally from Mad Ann and Mr Toad wearing virus protection suits. Source? oh some tweet covered in Union and St George flags, bulldogs, crying children and other jeering emojis with a kind invitation to f.off to the EU if I don't like it. Seriously though, do you really expect those who never wanted all this shite to somehow now 'get behind the country' to dilute leaver's responsibility? That is quite an ask especially after yesterday's pathetic flag waving performance but no doubt we'll all feel much more positive after tomorrow nights celebrations. Still look on the bright side. Thank * I'm not in some Norfolk village with various strangely dressed deluded nutters performing some weird ceremony at 2300. I just hope no innocent animals are sacrificed.

Jeez, the yanks must be celebrating already. Talk about a sitting duck.

The plan? Hmm brexit plans eh? If only the 'gov' had had a plan in June 2016. Remember immediately after "the win" the look of horror on the face of Gove and Bozo because they knew nothing had been planned. Since that time it has been a mish-mash of incoherent policy to try and construct something/anything that would placate the baying masses whilst not taking the country to the edge. Since then we have had various charlatans telling us there, there it will be fine, the whole world is waiting. Voters who had never even run the likes of a whelk stall suddenly believed they were experts in world trade because of the new phrase that they had just heard called WTO. They are just at the first Dunning-Kruger peak and the politicians know that is a good place for them to get something/anything over the line before being found out. Others who like me readily admitted the knew f.all about world trade but started to read acknowledged world trade experts who painted a dim picture and still do. Now acknowledging that instead of cheering and celebrating some pyrrhic victory in a politically constructed mythical war is not disrespecting the referendum result or its supporters. It is just being realistic about the true situation we are now in yet you talk about "gracefully loosing". If there were definable benefits that made life better for the majority, I'd be right behind brexit despite my initial stance. Everyone not dishonest or deluded really knows that definable benefits are in very short supply but if they keep saying "just believe"...who knows it might be all right Nothing will seem to alter until next December. Bozo knows that and his boss Dom will have plenty of initial good news stuff ready to be deployed. After December all delusions will be called out over the following few years and if those who 'have lent' Bozo their vote end up with less,as predicted, it will not be pleasant. The truth will out before the end of this parliament's term no matter how much jubilation and partying and jeering you do next Friday. Those voters who have 'lent their vote' for the first time in their lives are the ones that you have to satisfy. Not remainers. The argument has a very long way to go before anyone can consider it 'won'. 2300 Friday is just the start not the finish.

Are you seriously suggesting that only brexiters are to be the final arbiters of the mess they initiated? Y'know... the 26% of the UK population that wanted it? Nobody else has the right to a view on its success or failure? That is one hell of a delusion.

True...but over the next 3-5 years not as that tit Osborne said.

Correct. Luckily for them, there is nearly a year to put their (our) money where there mouth is and no doubt Dom will have planned some good news stuff for next week-on. In his adoring followers eyes, Bozo will need to "prove" in their ultra short-termism way that nothing has really changed.

I once went for the two day interview process at Aldershot for a 5 year Short Service Commission. It was 2 days of mind game central (especially when they tried to get me pissed in the O.M.) End result was "you are too old/should have joined after your education finished/we have a glut of Majors and Half Colonels in this regiment". Probably a very lucky escape looking back for many reasons including almost certain deployment in Operation Desert Shield/Storm and/or the Balkans Old Manx/Scots saying "what's for you won't pass you by" proved that wasn't for me...

Gotcha but I think we all noticed that already. It was also noticed that you have failed to adequately answer nearly of the points over the last few days made that that called on your apparently skewed, selfish, bigoted view of the world. Now what's the noun that describes someone who lurks on a forum of which they have no apparent connection, makes provocative, triggering derisory remarks and then answers with simplistic, glib and often callous one liners? C'mon there must be a word for that..

@ Rog Well you adviser seemed to have missed out quite a few bits or you weren't listening adequately. For a start, out of the EU there are a big fat zero annual pension increases if you are not UK resident. The pension amount is frozen . Furthermore it will no longer be able to be paid in your destination country if we no deal it. Then there is healthcare. Form S1 will no longer operate meaning pensioners will be forced to obtain private cover (if they can get someone to accept the significant risk and they can afford the premiums) at the worst possible time of their lives. This benefit has been paid for by them and their employer's NI over a working lifetime and is now likely to be cut. As 3rd country residents, permission to stay will only be given if your income is above their set minimum. It matters not one jot whether you can live on that or less, it is simply a matter of whether you can meet their (presently unknown) figure and they disregard money in the bank. Sure, eg Spain has said they can stay but not what they will be required to do to maintain that right which is presently automatic. They are waiting to see what pans out with their citizens in the UK before forming final policy. A friend of ours is a Gestor on the Costa del Sol and she has been getting Andalucia gov briefings on their plans if we are stupid enough to no deal it. One of those is a quite remarkable maximum of 90 days a year (not as 90 in 180 the Schengen rule) without a visa. The requirements to get such a visa are completely unknown at the present time. Those from present 3rd countries like the USA report all sorts of unilateral conditions dreamed up by local government in the regions which basically boil down to what a civil servant can get away with if they feel like it. Now... your accountant on these advice visits would have given you the consequences of retiring to the EU with what was operating at that time. He would not have warned about the outcome of some unknown futuristic brexit scenario the details of which are still under negotiation! So stop your 'if anyone were so stupid not to etc etc" because it is not relevant where goalposts are hugely moved in scenanrii which were completely unknown at the time of your advice. So your response is "basically tough". You don't care about anyone else unless they are in your entitled Norfolk bubble waving their flag of St George and jeering at anyone "stupid enough etc etc".

You know that is unlikely how....exactly? You know that how...exactly? Not doing what....exactly ? paying UK tax? In any case what about the others who might not even have enough income to pay tax? Those that went wherever before you f.ed it up? How were they supposed to see into the future and work out what madness might present itself that they likely had no vote to stop? You also haven't answered the point of what up to 40 years worth of NI was paying for and won't if we no deal it in the future. It's pretty much a certainty if you also dodge these questions, like you have been doing with other inconvenient replies for days.

Wow...never saw that coming ; Have you ever considered they may still be paying UK tax and have paid NI for healthcare and pension rights that they have had since. They made their choice because you f.ed it up and thousands are now very worried in case of no deal as they won't have anywhere near the specified minimum annual income the foreign gov will now insist on. But you have already made it clear you don't give a shit about anyone not indigenous Englanders in little England. I really hoped Godfrey Bloom was a one off.....

What about those Brits who live in an EU state having retired there after a lifetime contributing in THEIR country?

Yep or maybe just someone xpathic.

Says it all...

Of course but the freedom of speech is fundamental lest we lurch towards that word Rog thinks we don't understand. Now going away to muse whether a fascist can EVER actually claim that their freedom of speech was somehow forcibly suppressed

Because one is built on discussed and approved common regulation and the other is based on arbitrary concepts whilst totally ignoring (or worse, blaming) the aforementioned approved common regulation.

Adapted: I do not agree with many of Rog's view's - but I defend to the hilt his right to express them without undue and overpowering shouting down.

Just wondered why anyone would give complete equivalence to one proposition that increases freedom to another proposition that restricts it? I mean...who in their right mind would actually vote to reduce their rights and freedoms? Oh, hang on a mo......

Prove it.