ballaughbiker

Saving people from a lifetime of loose plastic teeth is not a 'bad'. It just isn't.... Unlike you I am very grateful for the caring professionals who saved me from that self-inflicted certainty to give me a functioning dentition, albeit full of metal, that will see me out. Needlessly ? I won't comment on your personal experiences because I have no knowlege of its circumstances and it's anecdotal at best, but the fact that those gaps then spontaneously closed is a clue that it wasn't needless at all. If you had teeth out and gaps remained, that might support your theory but most treatment plans to straighten crooked teeth caused by overcrowding is extractions and an appliance. Only the actual outcome can determine whether treatment (assuming appliance therapy was complied with) was 'needless'.

Because you are asking a question that can't be answered based on evidence. I too have a mouthful of metal but I'm grateful I dodged the mouthful of acrylic that the vast majority of my parent's generation had. That dodge was down to the professional care about which you have concerns. Adult full denture wearers now account for just 6% population, down from a vast majority in 1948 when the NHS started. Dunno why. It is a perfectly acceptable treatment of overcrowding. In fact it is usually necessary if that condition exists.

Sorry to burst your bubble but school dentists were salaried/employed with no financial incentive to 'look for work' . In any case, data from the last 25 ish years shows there is well more than average amounts of work here anyway without looking for it. As for salary, it was just 35% more than the national average back in the late 80s (the only data I have) which probably wouldn't support Bradda man's lifestyle on its own.. Correct

Provocative first post but welcome. "Cough up" for what ?

Same here. Car now off the road and waiting for my fine for having no current ITV.

Spending more time with their opinions..🙄

What nonsense. You do not have to be able to do a job better in order to criticise any failings of those who chose to do that job.

I still think teachers should be given a priority in the rollout of vaccinations, especially given the above.

111 option 2 isn't to book an appointment. It's just to give them your details so they can contact you later with an appointment. Jeez, isn't there anyone in IT who could sort an online version of that now we are into age group that likely routinely uses computers? Edit, just seen above from Banker. Ashie, wasn't this an ever so slightly obvious way of collating patient data from those who want the vax? I mean...how long have you had to sort this out? It seems ludicrous to have to phone a very busy number just to have someone input the data you could have done yourself in much less time never mind the opportunity for input errors. There is a reason why the vast majority of companies don't want phone calls at all these days.

I gave up ages ago but good job someone looks at three fm's website.

Probably. Nay very likely. After multiple tries (20 ish) I eventually got on the holding pattern listening to that synthetic music for half an hour. At exactly 30 mins it cut off. So back down the snake to the start and now it's not answering at all and this is mid afternoon.

Sorry Gladys, I might be being thick here but what is the significance of January 21st in this context?

France? No...scrub that

We're not happy unless we're moaning (or correcting others spelling and grammar)

Hope so. Just for comparison's sake (ie not complaining..much) From personal chats over the last day or two, all in England this age group and most 60+ who want it have had the first jab and one or two the second. Andalucia in Spain are sending out appointments for 40 somethings now. Nouvelle Aquitaine in SW France have only got as far as clinically vulnerable 60 somethings. So... We are well behind the curve but not as much as France.

The sooner we are all vaxxed the better. Bleedin' obvious I know, but it seems we are a long way behind the UK in vax rollout. Whilst this continues we put ourselves at increased risk of the likes of last weeks infections Even taking into account the priority of 2nd dose jabs given their time limit, we really need to get on with this.

Just some info from over there to compare with over here from this morning. Group 5 (65-69 or older) patients are being encouraged to book their first jab now. Anecdotal (but reliable) evidence from different parts of the country (Sheffield and Isle of Wight in todays info) seem to give next day appointments if the NHS app is used. If Group 5 over there are getting the first vaccine now and our Group 5's is likely not until May, that is quite a discrepancy. Anyone know what that's down to as supply problems have been ruled out. Asking for a friend in Group 5....

There used to be some really good anti-fog coating called Repcon which I think was made in USA. Manx used to put it on the aircraft windscreens and I remember it working really well on glasses. Given that we are going back a long time, I'm not sure if it's still available but might be worth a try if you have to wear a mask and glasses.

If you care to look back, I started this by fully supporting a good system that is clearly working and I agree with the harsh penalties for those who choose to risk others by not adhering to the rules. 'Chapeau' to those who thought it out and apply it. We owe them a lot. However that does not mean that the good and effective system cannot be improved. If it has been decided that unannounced home visits are the only way to ensure compliance (I think they are other effective ways) then it is essential that these are done without any risk at all, especially those who may be medically at higher risk. The whole point of all this is just to suggest a minor modification in policy. Nothing else.

There is some cross infection risk or else you wouldn't otherwise need to self isolate in the first place. The risk to the householder depends on many factors including any pre-disposing conditions they may have to the severe form of Covid and whether the inspectors chose to enter their gardens etc which is increased if the inspectors have just visited other arrivals from the last 14 days who are clearly a higher risk per se. It is entirely possible that the householder may also have been a hospital inpatient and received immunocompromising treatment whilst away and the inspectors have no way of knowing this. Any risk is negated if they do not enter your garden and, say, phone you to ask you to come to the window if the type of property allows. I think that is all that needs to be changed to further protect all concerned. It is a minor modification of an otherwise good system if it is believed that home visits really are required. I think they aren't essential unless there is reasonable suspicion that an offence under the regulations has been committed and/or other methods have failed. You clearly think there is some risk too or why else would you have said "How long are you isolating for, because to get the risk to the rest of us down to zero you need to at least quadruple it"

They didn't stand at the garden gate unfortunately. Those taking swabs will have PPE and standard procedure. (For the second time).

I try to keep it quiet although I'm not convinced we are talking about the same units.

Maybe but luckily I and my medical issues don't have to rely on you for cross-infection risk and procedure. My interest in this subject started when I was (un)ceremoniously thrown out of theatre by the Surgeon Commander at RN Hospital Haslar after I absent mindedly scratched my nose through my mask having scrubbed up. That was 42 years ago and nothing has changed except for some new and very virulent nasties from which I don't want any risk at all. Zero. When we know more about this that may be subject to modification based on evidence not feelings.🙄

Don't need cheering up thanks esp after just practicing my dance moves to Madcon's "Beggin'" but back to the serious subject in hand.

Clearly but that's hardly indicative of anything other than your level of understanding. The risk to the arrivals ideally needs to be zero especially if the arrivals have an at risk medical history which neither CO or their inspectors have any knowledge. I think nobody should come on to your property for inspection purposes unless there is reasonable suspicion you have been breaking the law or you call for help. In the absence of those obvious exceptions isolation should mean full isolation from everyone. Yes but they are trained with adequate PPE so hardly a parallel situation.