Mumbai Terror

[Mr. Sausages]

I don't accept that for a moment, but if you do, how do you account for Germany and Deutschland?

 

S

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_for_Germany

 

This is actually quite an interesting topic. Shame it's been stumbled upon as an excuse for ignorant people to have a whinge.

[slinkydevil]

I don't accept that for a moment, but if you do, how do you account for Germany and Deutschland?

 

S

 

No wriggling required. Not accepting it means fuck all - it's just a denial from you.

 

Roma = Italian translation we have anglicised over time to Rome

Deutschland = German translation we anglicised over time to Germany from the region of Germania.

 

Bom Baim = anglicised over time to Bombay (it means 'good bay')

Mumbai = Mumbai (its named after a goddess 'Mumbadevi')

 

Are you thick? Did you not read my earlier post about Bombay being named Bombay by the Portuguese in 1508? Mumbai is not a translation it is a complete name change, it was changed as a political point for the Marathi people as that is what they had always called it or wanted to. A bit like getting rid of that nasty colonial name eh?

 

All this doesn't help with so many languages being spoken in India (not just dialects but languages) along with groups of people who just don't get on - anyway like it or not the name was officially changed by the Marathi political party Shiv Sena (much to the annoyance of a lot of people) and that's how it stands - officially. Your annoyance and denial changes nothing. Even if the BBC called it Bombay tomorrow - every other news agency in the world would call it Mumbai. So your argument about BBC reporting and illiteracy just doesn't add up.

 

I think you are mixing up translations and complete name changes, so I don't accept you examples of Germany and Rome as very good ones.

 

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[Chinahand]

God what a waste of time.

 

Language evolves over time - especially the parts of the language influenced by foreign languages and customs.

 

There is no overall consistency over whether people use the same place name for a foreign place or a different one - sometimes they match sometimes they don't. Sometimes they used to match in the past and now they don't, sometimes they used to be different, but they are now the same.

 

So what.

 

Whenever things change some people grumble that they shouldn't have changed, some people embrace it. But the fact is that as things have changed it tends to mean there is enough cultural momentum behind the change to allow it to happen.

 

To say this is down to the BBC or whatever is just farcical. Its cultural change - there is enough of a cultural movement in the UK to accept changing names as local inhabitants abandon colonial era names. There are opinion makers and formers, but there is also a zietgeist and the interaction between the two is extremely complicated.

 

But in a generation it'll be Mumbai and very few people will care. New York also USED to be New Amsterdam - I bet the Dutch insisted on calling it that for quite a time afterwards, but enough people called in New York to make their protests irrelevent.

 

Oh and LDV - I've explained enough about Peking and Beijing in this thread already- if you want to know more go to Wikipedia or where ever.

[La_Dolce_Vita]

Oh and LDV - I've explained enough about Peking and Beijing in this thread already- if you want to know more go to Wikipedia or where ever.

 

So you did, sorry.

[Ringwraith]

Pakistani 'Scarface' terrorists

 

"Mumbai attacks: Terrorists took cocaine to stay awake during assault"

 

OK! You wanna play rough? Then say hello to my little friend.....

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/...ng-assault.html