slinkydevil Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 There are some that need to take their head out of their arse and realise that not everyone in the world is as fucken smart as they are. And yes I include the fuckers at the BBC for that. Maybe thats true, but you've got people on one hand saying the BBC are shit cos they're dumbing down and then others saying they're not dumbing down enough. I'd have thought the big red circle on the map of India would at least have given a clue. My main point was your "I'm only bothered about people who are brutally killed if its a place I know" attitude - you don't need any education to know that's wrong. I'll put that down to the Boddingtons though. You know stuff I don't know. I know stuff you don't know. Its not about being a smart arse at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebrof Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Not sure that you have addressed my point, though, which is that it really isn't up to the people of India (whoops, Bharat) to dictate what we names we give to Indian places, just as it isn't for us to dictate what names Bharatians (whoops, Indians) give to places in the British Isles. S I think you need to read my 4th and 5th paragraphs again! You're right. Very short memory today. Couldn't really get my head around somebody presenting both points of view. S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hboy Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Feeling quite belittled today, I asked the woman in the paper shop if she could tell me where Mumbai was. Nope she couldn't. Same with the taxi driver (amazingly). Same with some random folk in the pub. But there again I was in Macbeths. Still, those people all have their place in the world. Although perhaps more to be pitied than scorned as the big yin might say. I fail to see your point: I wouldn't waste my time asking anyone who drinks in MacBeths where they thought Onchan is nevermind Mumbai so I suggest that maybe you've fucked up your random survey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
%age Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 That may be the case. It's always going to be a bit of a risk when adding some colour to a post to make a point though. Random survey aside, I am sure you see my point. You sound like one of those pathetic civil servants or a toady lawyer who gleefully discovers a perhaps superfluous point in someone's argument to make a meal of. Take a good look around, you will be shocked but hopefully not surprised now, to find that so many people have a view of our world that is far narrower than your own. But In our beautifully democratic society, . . . they too have their say, and so their opinion is just as important as those whose head is firmly implanted up their own arse. Don't have a go at me on that though, that last bit was taken from Telly Savalas' smash hit Desiderata. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbms Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 It all depends on what people need to call it after all the following hasn't changed: You don't to a shop and ask for a bag of Mumbai Mix You dont go to a resteraunt and ask for Mumbai Duck You don't go into a bar and ask for a measure of Mumbai Sapphire Gin If you are a cat breeder you refer to the Bombay Black not the Mumbai Black I have yet to see Bombay Bad Boy in here change to Mumbai Bad Boy So as you see double standards as usual occur according to what is wanted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebrof Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 It all depends on what people need to call it after all the following hasn't changed:You don't to a shop and ask for a bag of Mumbai Mix You dont go to a resteraunt and ask for Mumbai Duck You don't go into a bar and ask for a measure of Mumbai Sapphire Gin If you are a cat breeder you refer to the Bombay Black not the Mumbai Black I have yet to see Bombay Bad Boy in here change to Mumbai Bad Boy So as you see double standards as usual occur according to what is wanted Precisely. To any English-speaker with more than two brain cells it's still Bombay. That stipulation of course rules out most of the illiterates who nowadays work for the Beeb. S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Git Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 I have yet to see Bombay Bad Boy in here change to Mumbai Bad Boy That's 'cos he's a bad boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La_Dolce_Vita Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Precisely. To any English-speaker with more than two brain cells it's still Bombay. That stipulation of course rules out most of the illiterates who nowadays work for the Beeb. S I am getting confused over this, because it isn't Bombay anymore. I have heard Bombay used far more but I knew that it is not called Bombay by the Indian people anymore and have heard Mumbai used quite a lot. If it has changed its name to Mumbai then that is what should be used in news reporting, not Bombay. I do not know what term I would personally use, mainly because I don't often bring Bombay or Mumbai up in conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Precisely. To any English-speaker with more than two brain cells it's still Bombay. Yeh - who ever heard Guy Gibson saying: 'Over target, open the Mumbai doors". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkydevil Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Precisely. To any English-speaker with more than two brain cells it's still Bombay. That stipulation of course rules out most of the illiterates who nowadays work for the Beeb. S Bullshit. If the BBC didn't correctly name it as Mumbai you'd still be bleating they were illiterates for still calling it Bombay when the name was officially changed. It's bleating for bleatings sake. Perhaps you should write to them and ask them to mention Bombay everytime they say Mumbai until all you grumpy old gits die off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Perhaps you should write to them and ask them to mention Bombay everytime they say Mumbai until all you grumpy old gits die off. I remember me grumpy great grandad telling me that it was once called Heptanesia. This should be included in the letter too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebrof Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Precisely. To any English-speaker with more than two brain cells it's still Bombay. That stipulation of course rules out most of the illiterates who nowadays work for the Beeb. S Bullshit. If the BBC didn't correctly name it as Mumbai you'd still be bleating they were illiterates for still calling it Bombay when the name was officially changed. It's bleating for bleatings sake. Perhaps you should write to them and ask them to mention Bombay everytime they say Mumbai until all you grumpy old gits die off. One simple question for you: Why don't you and the BBC say Roma, instead of Rome. Wriggle away. S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La_Dolce_Vita Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 One simple question for you: Why don't you and the BBC say Roma, instead of Rome. Wriggle away. S I did look on wikipedia. It says the names are etymologically dissimilar. Whereas Roma is the Italian way of saying Rome. Bombay is totally different name change. I wonder if that is why. Chinahand might know but the difference between Beijing and Peking, is that simply a more accurate and less anglicised translation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebrof Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 One simple question for you: Why don't you and the BBC say Roma, instead of Rome. Wriggle away. S I did look on wikipedia. It says the names are etymologically dissimilar. Whereas Roma is the Italian way of saying Rome. Bombay is totally different name change. I wonder if that is why. Chinahand might know but the difference between Beijing and Peking, is that simply a more accurate and less anglicised translation? I don't accept that for a moment, but if you do, how do you account for Germany and Deutschland? S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebrof Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Precisely. To any English-speaker with more than two brain cells it's still Bombay. Yeh - who ever heard Guy Gibson saying: 'Over target, open the Mumbai doors". Not bad. S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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