hboy Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Would like to wish Brenda Cannell all the very best for the forthcoming election. Mrs. Cannell worked tirelessly to help the Breast Cancer Action Group keep their dedicated breast surgeon for the patients of the Island. She tried her very best. At least she took the whole matter seriously and realised that it was a very emotive issue unlike a lot of other MHK's Mr.Earnshaw, Mr. Anderson, Mr. Corkish!! I'd like to wish Mrs Cannell nothing but bad luck in the forthcoming elections. Being sat on your mouthy scouse arse for over 10 years doing very little is hardly conducive in moving the political process forward over here. Even on the breast care issue - how can you claim to know more than someone medically qualified in the area? Nevermind you are living proof that if you shout loud enough idiots will start to believe you and if they don't believe you just shout louder and they will probably stop asking questions in the end. This Island is fucked and we deserve all we get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobs Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Would like to wish Brenda Cannell all the very best for the forthcoming election. Mrs. Cannell worked tirelessly to help the Breast Cancer Action Group keep their dedicated breast surgeon for the patients of the Island. She tried her very best. At least she took the whole matter seriously and realised that it was a very emotive issue unlike a lot of other MHK's Mr.Earnshaw, Mr. Anderson, Mr. Corkish!! I'd like to wish Mrs Cannell nothing but bad luck in the forthcoming elections. Being sat on your mouthy scouse arse for over 10 years doing very little is hardly conducive in moving the political process forward over here. Even on the breast care issue - how can you claim to know more than someone medically qualified in the area? Nevermind you are living proof that if you shout loud enough idiots will start to believe you and if they don't believe you just shout louder and they will probably stop asking questions in the end. This Island is fucked and we deserve all we get. Mrs Cannell wasn't trying to help Breast cancer suffers she was try to gain herself some popularity. I have just been reading the article in last weeks independent that stated that she has quoted false figures to the UK specialist leading him to support her. This has now been rectified and the leading expert had done a U turn. I have no doubt that the current incumbent is an excellent doctor but she is a locum that doesnt even live on the Isle of Man. Mrs Cannell has showed no respect whatsoever for the nursing staff that were here before the locum came and will still be in post long after she retires. The island needs politicians that have brains and integrity who do not jump on convenient bandwagons. I will be looking forward to meeting the candidates when they knock on my door but I sincerely doubt that Mrs Cannell is the best person for the job PS I dont believe the island is quite F****d but I think we are well on the way and are desperately in need of some decent people in charge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 PS I dont believe the island is quite F****d but I think we are well on the way and are desperately in need of some decent people in charge Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 PS I dont believe the island is quite F****d but I think we are well on the way and are desperately in need of some decent people in charge Well said. Most of what happens economically is always cyclical and tidal. There is relatively little that a regional / local govt can do to influence the economic cycle - especially given that so much of what becomes policy and methodology will inevitably be decided by international agreement. The future of the IOM is about innovative and creative people who live on the island having the vision and enthusiasm to make their own opportunities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terse Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 PS I dont believe the island is quite F****d but I think we are well on the way and are desperately in need of some decent people in charge The future of the IOM is about innovative and creative people who live on the island having the vision and enthusiasm to make their own opportunities. That appears to be the same as saying we're fucked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theodolite Posted June 27, 2011 Author Share Posted June 27, 2011 Would like to wish Brenda Cannell all the very best for the forthcoming election. Mrs. Cannell worked tirelessly to help the Breast Cancer Action Group keep their dedicated breast surgeon for the patients of the Island. She tried her very best. At least she took the whole matter seriously and realised that it was a very emotive issue unlike a lot of other MHK's Mr.Earnshaw, Mr. Anderson, Mr. Corkish!! I'd like to wish Mrs Cannell nothing but bad luck in the forthcoming elections. Being sat on your mouthy scouse arse for over 10 years doing very little is hardly conducive in moving the political process forward over here. Even on the breast care issue - how can you claim to know more than someone medically qualified in the area? Nevermind you are living proof that if you shout loud enough idiots will start to believe you and if they don't believe you just shout louder and they will probably stop asking questions in the end. This Island is fucked and we deserve all we get. Although I have to admit to liking the style of your words hboy, I have to jump to the defence of our Brenda here. I became aware of some of her constituency work, much of it not publicised, and I have to say that she is an excellent constituency MHK. I'm thankful she is in Douglas East, she has certainly not been sat on her arse for 10 years, scouse or otherwise. I would imagine she would work with Government when the right people are there who she has confidence in. I don't think Brenda can be bought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Login Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 I have to jump to the defence of our Brenda here. I became aware of some of her constituency work, much of it not publicised, and I have to say that she is an excellent constituency MHK. That is the problem though with small constituenies. We have many MHK's who are very good constituency MHK's and therefore get in time and time again but in terms of leading a department taking the IoM forward have basically very little to offer. If you are just a great constituency MHK you might as well just be a glorified local commissioner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theodolite Posted June 27, 2011 Author Share Posted June 27, 2011 A valid point, but there has to be some balance. It would be tragic to have 24 backbencher types, there only to criticise and monitor. It would be equally tragic to have 24 MHKs who are all ambitious yes men/woman. We are not far from that at the moment. It is fair to say that Douglas East has two MHKs who are more in the scrutiny role of our Parliament. We used to have a nodding dog establishment type grey man in a grey suit previously. Although he is still around he has been kicked upstairs to the legislative council, hopefully out of the way a bit. I am happy for other constituencies to provide the establishment figures (far easier and more fun to snipe at then). Mrs Cannell has plenty of experience and has held departmental posts and chairs before. I am sure she has the ability to be a part of Government and lead a Department if necessary and under the right circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hboy Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Mrs Cannell has plenty of experience and has held departmental posts and chairs before. I am sure she has the ability to be a part of Government and lead a Department if necessary and under the right circumstances. Really? She has been kicked off or resigned from every board or department she's ever been on. I think 2 years is her personal best. Why would anyone vote for someone who can't hold onto any departmental position for less than half a term? I'm sorry but I've had my fill of vocal grand standing MHKs who prefer to create a fuss in a "Look at me, look at me" way rather than getting down to achieving strategic objectives that further the Isle of Man's economy. If you want a glorified commissioner then vote in a local election not a general election. Personally I can see that our economy is going down the tubes and I couldn't care less about local constituency issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade Runner Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Really? She has been kicked off or resigned from every board or department she's ever been on. I think 2 years is her personal best. Why would anyone vote for someone who can't hold onto any departmental position for less than half a term? I'm sorry but I've had my fill of vocal grand standing MHKs who prefer to create a fuss in a "Look at me, look at me" way rather than getting down to achieving strategic objectives that further the Isle of Man's economy. If you want a glorified commissioner then vote in a local election not a general election. Personally I can see that our economy is going down the tubes and I couldn't care less about local constituency issues. Agree Hboy but what can we as voters do about it? As you have pointed out, the salary for being an MHK is too low to be of interest to the type of people who may be good enough to drag us back from the brink. When we lose another 70-80million of VAT soon as has been hinted at by TB (it will happen, he just does not want to tell the truth). I would suggest a doubling of current MHK salary with just one flat rate apart from the CM who would get a lift over the rest, just might attract the right people over time. Some real numptys will not know how to spend it short term but at the next election it might bring some serious players to the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hboy Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Really? She has been kicked off or resigned from every board or department she's ever been on. I think 2 years is her personal best. Why would anyone vote for someone who can't hold onto any departmental position for less than half a term? I'm sorry but I've had my fill of vocal grand standing MHKs who prefer to create a fuss in a "Look at me, look at me" way rather than getting down to achieving strategic objectives that further the Isle of Man's economy. If you want a glorified commissioner then vote in a local election not a general election. Personally I can see that our economy is going down the tubes and I couldn't care less about local constituency issues. Agree Hboy but what can we as voters do about it? As you have pointed out, the salary for being an MHK is too low to be of interest to the type of people who may be good enough to drag us back from the brink. When we lose another 70-80million of VAT soon as has been hinted at by TB (it will happen, he just does not want to tell the truth). I would suggest a doubling of current MHK salary with just one flat rate apart from the CM who would get a lift over the rest, just might attract the right people over time. Some real numptys will not know how to spend it short term but at the next election it might bring some serious players to the table. The influential blocks of local voters fall into 3 groups 1. The Retired 2. Government workers 3. People who work for businesses who rely on government contracts On this basis I can't see what hope we have; the grannies will vote for some numpty who makes sure that their pensions stay the same, the government workers will vote for any numpty who will maintain the status quo, and those that rely on government contracts will do the same. Outside of that as most UK imports don't vote as they can't be arsed you end up with a few hardcore Manxies on the fringe lobbing bricks but with no voter empowerment. As I said in another thread we get what we deserve and the same shower of shite are going to get back in this time around and they'll be sat there watching money leave here at breakneck speed and wonder why it is happening. Its depressing working here at the moment just seeing how bad everything is getting and that government has no grasp of what it needs to do to turn things round. TB is like King Canute trying to keep the tide from coming in and this government will all be wearing snorkels before they face the reality of the situation we are in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hboy Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 I came very close to declaring for this seat myself; I'd got as far as recording the initial Manx Radio interview, but then my mum died (a couple of weeks back) and as a consequence I'm not really in the mood to spend three solid months going from door-to-door. I suppose I could still change my mind, although time is getting tight and I'm not sure I'm in the right frame of mind. Anyway, if anyone is interested in what was in my manifesto, I can post it on here, although be warned that it's pretty long and detailed (a good 4000 words). And its warmer in Bermuda, isn't that where you pretended to bugger off to when you were a Conservative counsillor in the UK and buggered off right after being voted in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade Runner Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 What about the "UK Imports"? They make up about 50% of the population and could maybe persuaded to vote if offered the right candidate? Like I said, raise the salary of MHKs and you might get a few UK imports standing and that block of votes might well wipe out the council house/ public sector voting block. I know its an uphill struggle what with multiple millions being spent in the last few years building new or totally renovating £50.00 a week housing and apart from the last couple of years big pay rises for the public sector. What kind of messed up country pays £40k+ to Bus Drivers FFS. The only one that we could be compared to that springs to mind is Greece and look at what is happening there. Quite a lot of similarities between our public sectors, as in paid to not do any real work, lazy workers and a big pension to look forward to at the end of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Politician Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 I came very close to declaring for this seat myself; I'd got as far as recording the initial Manx Radio interview, but then my mum died (a couple of weeks back) and as a consequence I'm not really in the mood to spend three solid months going from door-to-door. I suppose I could still change my mind, although time is getting tight and I'm not sure I'm in the right frame of mind. Anyway, if anyone is interested in what was in my manifesto, I can post it on here, although be warned that it's pretty long and detailed (a good 4000 words). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Politician Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 And its warmer in Bermuda, isn't that where you pretended to bugger off to when you were a Conservative counsillor in the UK and buggered off right after being voted in? Eh? Bermuda? What are you on about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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