xbones Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 No there won't, there's no such thing as "professional games".A professional player is someone who plays for a living, as in doesn't have another job. Yes, but the games aren't restricted to them, anyone can join in if the have the cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatshaft Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 No there won't, there's no such thing as "professional games".A professional player is someone who plays for a living, as in doesn't have another job. Yes, but the games aren't restricted to them, anyone can join in if the have the cash. I am aware of that Slim, I worked in poker, and indeed for a while was even a poker pro, but as xbones says, there are no such things as "professional only games". Anyone that has the cash can play any of the Villa events, and indeed Stars haver IoM resident only satellites running - join "isle of man Poker Scene" facebook page for more details. sadly, as an ex-resident, the lads on that page won't let me play, I'll have to try to qualify from the pleb sats instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Ahh I get you. Soz I'm on the poker scene group. Notice that it's gone closed now though, so dunno if others can join? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybs Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 November stop, a time when the season is over, yes betting is not right for some, but these events are well governed. As someone else said the TT is dangerous, why there is such a delay with Mount Murray plans is beyond me, we have to move with the times! For anyone interested check out Octobers stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatshaft Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Ahh I get you. Soz I'm on the poker scene group. Notice that it's gone closed now though, so dunno if others can join? I imagine you just have to apply, or get invited at one of the local/casino games. Could be due to the aforementioned sats, there will be many trying to get into such short handed qualifiers, good move from the group imo. I shouldn't have owned up to no longer living in the IoM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lxxx Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 November stop, a time when the season is over, yes betting is not right for some, but these events are well governed. As someone else said the TT is dangerous, why there is such a delay with Mount Murray plans is beyond me, we have to move with the times! For anyone interested check out Octobers stop. The delay to the Mount Murray plans comes in the form of a 6 letter word. Sefton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatshaft Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 November stop, a time when the season is over, yes betting is not right for some, but these events are well governed. As someone else said the TT is dangerous, why there is such a delay with Mount Murray plans is beyond me, we have to move with the times! For anyone interested check out Octobers stop. The delay to the Mount Murray plans comes in the form of a 6 letter word. Sefton. I'd have thought more likely, it would be suicide to open a second casino in the IoM, especially as seems suggested, out at Mount Murray. If you want to operate a casino in the island, then buy the one that is there, no room whatsoever for two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lxxx Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 November stop, a time when the season is over, yes betting is not right for some, but these events are well governed. As someone else said the TT is dangerous, why there is such a delay with Mount Murray plans is beyond me, we have to move with the times! For anyone interested check out Octobers stop. The delay to the Mount Murray plans comes in the form of a 6 letter word. Sefton. I'd have thought more likely, it would be suicide to open a second casino in the IoM, especially as seems suggested, out at Mount Murray. If you want to operate a casino in the island, then buy the one that is there, no room whatsoever for two. Why not? The one we've got is a joke. Surely another newer, larger, more modern one tied in with an upgraded hotel is exactly what we need if we're to capitalise on our very successful e-gaming market. Why should the island suffer just because the Sefton hasn't got the cash to upgrade the existing one to a 5 star hotel and casino complex? However the government has just got into bed with you-know-who, to grant a licence would be akin to shooting itself in the foot. I think we know how this one will play out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatshaft Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 November stop, a time when the season is over, yes betting is not right for some, but these events are well governed. As someone else said the TT is dangerous, why there is such a delay with Mount Murray plans is beyond me, we have to move with the times! For anyone interested check out Octobers stop. The delay to the Mount Murray plans comes in the form of a 6 letter word. Sefton. I'd have thought more likely, it would be suicide to open a second casino in the IoM, especially as seems suggested, out at Mount Murray. If you want to operate a casino in the island, then buy the one that is there, no room whatsoever for two. Why not? The one we've got is a joke. Surely another newer, larger, more modern one tied in with an upgraded hotel is exactly what we need if we're to capitalise on our very successful e-gaming market. Why should the island suffer just because the Sefton hasn't got the cash to upgrade the existing one to a 5 star hotel and casino complex? However the government has just got into bed with you-know-who, to grant a licence would be akin to shooting itself in the foot. I think we know how this one will play out. Lxxx, online gaming has no relevance - other than a small bump in card room attendances - to B&M gaming. The IoM is simply not big enough for a casino in all honesty, and only survives because of the slots operation. The gaming floor is a marginally profitable venture, that even then relies very much on the large boost of weekend traffic, and that comes from the late night boozing crowd spilling over into the casino when other venues are closing, something that a Mount Murray operation wouldn't gain from. I'm not saying that the current casino couldn't be improved on - it's years since i've been there so couldn't possibly comment - what I am saying is there is no room for two, and certainly making a larger gaming floor in a new venue would be utter stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lxxx Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 November stop, a time when the season is over, yes betting is not right for some, but these events are well governed. As someone else said the TT is dangerous, why there is such a delay with Mount Murray plans is beyond me, we have to move with the times! For anyone interested check out Octobers stop. The delay to the Mount Murray plans comes in the form of a 6 letter word. Sefton. I'd have thought more likely, it would be suicide to open a second casino in the IoM, especially as seems suggested, out at Mount Murray. If you want to operate a casino in the island, then buy the one that is there, no room whatsoever for two. Why not? The one we've got is a joke. Surely another newer, larger, more modern one tied in with an upgraded hotel is exactly what we need if we're to capitalise on our very successful e-gaming market. Why should the island suffer just because the Sefton hasn't got the cash to upgrade the existing one to a 5 star hotel and casino complex? However the government has just got into bed with you-know-who, to grant a licence would be akin to shooting itself in the foot. I think we know how this one will play out. Lxxx, online gaming has no relevance - other than a small bump in card room attendances - to B&M gaming. The IoM is simply not big enough for a casino in all honesty, and only survives because of the slots operation. The gaming floor is a marginally profitable venture, that even then relies very much on the large boost of weekend traffic, and that comes from the late night boozing crowd spilling over into the casino when other venues are closing, something that a Mount Murray operation wouldn't gain from. I'm not saying that the current casino couldn't be improved on - it's years since i've been there so couldn't possibly comment - what I am saying is there is no room for two, and certainly making a larger gaming floor in a new venue would be utter stupidity. Open a much better one, force the Sefton to close theirs due to lack of business (market forces at work, something which the Sefton group have profited from over the years) and thus we only have one remaining for the island, the benefit being it's a much better fit for purpose establishment befitting of hosting international tournaments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatshaft Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Lxxx, you do remember Poker Million eh? At the time, due to the fact the poker boom hadn't taken off, it was ranked as the #2 tournament in the world. Before that every year there was the Manx classic, which was very well attended by the top British pros. Now, poker has taken off, there are major tournaments around the world just about every week. If it wasn't for the fact that Stars are island based, there is absolutely zero chance of any major tournament coming to the island again. Players simply wouldn't travel to a place that is so hard to get to (relative to its proximity to the UK), and so expensive, and with so little choice of decent accommodation. And accommodation is also a major factor that needs thinking about regarding dealers as well. The state or otherwise of the current casino has no bearing on hosting major tournaments, be thankful you have Poker Stars there, or you wouldn't be getting a major tourney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Current casino management have been pretty good at putting poker tournies on too, even though there's pretty much bugger all money in it for them VS the other tables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgandy Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Looking forward to this. With the darts the week before I'll be spending more time in the Villa than I have for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lxxx Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Lxxx, you do remember Poker Million eh? At the time, due to the fact the poker boom hadn't taken off, it was ranked as the #2 tournament in the world. Before that every year there was the Manx classic, which was very well attended by the top British pros. Now, poker has taken off, there are major tournaments around the world just about every week. If it wasn't for the fact that Stars are island based, there is absolutely zero chance of any major tournament coming to the island again. Players simply wouldn't travel to a place that is so hard to get to (relative to its proximity to the UK), and so expensive, and with so little choice of decent accommodation. And accommodation is also a major factor that needs thinking about regarding dealers as well. The state or otherwise of the current casino has no bearing on hosting major tournaments, be thankful you have Poker Stars there, or you wouldn't be getting a major tourney. Spot on. That's why Mount Murray are proposing an upgrade of their hotel to accompany the casino. Spending money to employ local labour to build a 5 star facility that the island currently doesn't have is apparently a bad idea, especially when taxpayers money is funding the competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatshaft Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Lxxx, you do remember Poker Million eh? At the time, due to the fact the poker boom hadn't taken off, it was ranked as the #2 tournament in the world. Before that every year there was the Manx classic, which was very well attended by the top British pros. Now, poker has taken off, there are major tournaments around the world just about every week. If it wasn't for the fact that Stars are island based, there is absolutely zero chance of any major tournament coming to the island again. Players simply wouldn't travel to a place that is so hard to get to (relative to its proximity to the UK), and so expensive, and with so little choice of decent accommodation. And accommodation is also a major factor that needs thinking about regarding dealers as well. The state or otherwise of the current casino has no bearing on hosting major tournaments, be thankful you have Poker Stars there, or you wouldn't be getting a major tourney. Spot on. That's why Mount Murray are proposing an upgrade of their hotel to accompany the casino. Spending money to employ local labour to build a 5 star facility that the island currently doesn't have is apparently a bad idea, especially when taxpayers money is funding the competition. I'm afraid you've lost me? I'm spot on, so what I said is why mount Murray want a new casino? You won't get major tournaments other than a UKIP in the IoM now I'm afraid, those days are gone, and fyi, the casino still has the same director as it had when Ladbrokes staged Poker Million, so management havn't changed, indeed as Slim points out, there are now unprofitable poker tournaments and cash games being run weekly by the casino that were never seen before. Do you support these, or have you never been? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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