Neil Down Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/clip/a3e9e594-139a-4e81-bd3e-638c7006c4f6 Why does the BBC continually try and make something out of nothing. If they were good enough they would be playing. All part of the "there are no winners" mentallity being exhibited in schools these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Colombe Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 What a dumb thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 It's all part of the state-sponsored broadcaster's ideological 'diversity programming.' It poses a question to which there is only one answer-- meeting the required professional standard, whatever ethnic background. Big difference in equality of opportunity and equality of outcome, especially in sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freggyragh Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 It’s not part of any ideology - it’s a question which prompts the obvious answer, ‘there any sub-continent origin players good enough’. Some ethnicities are better at certain sports than others - why shouldn’t a bbc journalis be allowed to discuss this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 It seems a fair question to ask. I remember at the time a similar one was being asked in Football fanzines like When Saturday Comes in the 1990's, why there hadn't been at that point an Asian professional footballer? Two reasons were advanced 1. Asian families put greater emphasis on academic achievement, 2. The network of scouts employed by the clubs and the higher echelons of non-league pyramid didn't reach into the Asian areas. So the best Asian players were known locally but never had the opportunity to move up a level. A bit like the Isle of Man. It's interesting that Quilp sees diversity programming as a bad thing when the remit of the BBC has always been to provide a range of programing for all sectors of society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Interesting eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 I don't remember giving the impression diversity was a bad thing either so you made that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 1 hour ago, quilp said: It's all part of the state-sponsored broadcaster's ideological 'diversity programming.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 I'm all for diversity but personally I believe for the sake of it, sometimes boundaries are stretched. It's also become an umbrella term under which bias and political agenda shelters. The BBC has been criticised many times for its alleged leftist agenda, a thread already exists on it. As for it being ideological, some historians would agree with my opinion, but that's all it is of course... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 It's leftism tokenism. When it all boils down, the state sponsored bbc will push for war the same as any other state sponsored propaganda machine. But they will at least do a few programmes 15 years later to say it was maybe wrong. Whilst pushing the next one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 19 minutes ago, quilp said: I'm all for diversity but personally I believe for the sake of it, sometimes boundaries are stretched. It's also become an umbrella term under which bias and political agenda shelters. The BBC has been criticised many times for its alleged leftist agenda, a thread already exists on it. As for it being ideological, some historians would agree with my opinion, but that's all it is of course... There is a need to do this as a giant screen shot? As opposed to simply quoting and linking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted August 28, 2018 Author Share Posted August 28, 2018 3 hours ago, La Colombe said: What a dumb thread. For somebody as thick as you, it’s difficult for you to comprehend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted August 28, 2018 Author Share Posted August 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Declan said: It seems a fair question to ask. I remember at the time a similar one was being asked in Football fanzines like When Saturday Comes in the 1990's, why there hadn't been at that point an Asian professional footballer? Two reasons were advanced 1. Asian families put greater emphasis on academic achievement, 2. The network of scouts employed by the clubs and the higher echelons of non-league pyramid didn't reach into the Asian areas. So the best Asian players were known locally but never had the opportunity to move up a level. A bit like the Isle of Man. It's interesting that Quilp sees diversity programming as a bad thing when the remit of the BBC has always been to provide a range of programing for all sectors of society. That may have been the reason in the 1990’s, but not now. There are loads of opportunities if you are good enough to get into the top teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phat Tog Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 I expect the Beeboids were hoping to find some sort of racist slant to this but the reason you don't see many young Indians, Bangladeshis or Pakistanis involved in football is very simple: Cricket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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