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They do seem to come up with stupid names for businesses nowadays. Probably the URL was available and CHEAP.

These cheaper than chips services are driven by the rise of web ordering. They work by paying the lowest fee to whoever will take it in a race to the bottom so that companies can offer "free" or very cheap delivery. As Collinsmeister said, the fee does not cover the cost of guaranteed quick individual delivery, so if there is nothing going to that area, you wait. I believe the way the Amazon super saver delivery works is that they throw the stuff into a trailer and when there is enough for that particular area, that's when it leaves. Some of these companies are also into the new wonder of the age, zero hours contracts, so we should remember when we patronise these outfits that as well as all of the creative accounting and tax avoiding practices they indulge in, we are also advocating working conditions that leave a lot to be desired. See http://www.channel4.com/news/anger-at-amazon-working-conditions "Thursday 01 August 2013 Business Anger at Amazon working conditions Former workers at an Amazon warehouse complain of timed toilet breaks, punishments for talking and zero-hour contracts in an exclusive Channel 4 News investigation. Channel 4 News spoke to a dozen ex-employees at Amazon's massive packing warehouse in Rugeley, east Midlands, who were angry at how the internet sales giant treated them. They said Amazon made them work long hours with minimal breaks, and laid off temporary staff to avoid giving them the same benefits and rights as permanent workers. The staff claimed their movements were monitored by GPS trackers, and say they were only given 30 minutes for lunch in a ten-hour shift - 20 minutes of which were spent walking to and from the canteen. Does this story affect you? If so get in touch with us: news@channel4.com Workers were searched for stolen goods at airport-style security checkpoints before going into the canteen. The employer allegedly issued penalty points to workers - for talking to colleagues, taking sick leave, or even spending too long in the bathroom – on a "three strikes and you're out" basis. 'No job security' The staff claim that the firm uses so-called zero hours contracts extensively, which means those staff have no job security and are forced to make themselves available for work with no guarantee they will be offered a shift on a particular day. One former agency manager also alleges that Amazon tried to avoid paying out hundreds of pounds in accrued holiday pay to agency staff by instructing agency representatives not to inform employees that it was owed to them. Andy Kingsley, who says he used to work for the recruitment agency Randstad inside the Rugeley warehouse, told Channel 4 News: "I think it was very underhand and devious to tell people not to claim money that they'd earned. "It was left down to the agency reps to instruct the associates as to what their next step was." I certainly could not sleep well at night if I "employed" people under those conditions.

Dirt cheap services give you the service you pay for. Bit like the Amazon "super saver" free delivery which can take a long time.

I am finding myself agreeing with TJ a lot nowadays.

Amazed by the last couple of pages of bile on this thread. People were tragically killed at the sport they loved. Everybody is aghast and united in sending their sympathy. So why is everyone kicking hell out of each other here for no very good reason at all? Perhaps it's just a way of letting out the emotion but it doesn't read too good in the circumstances.

It doesn't necessarily mean they were complicit. The parents may have been warned/threatened to back off because if the involvement of people high up. It is no secret that the ruling elite in the UK are largely a bunch of paedophiles. I must admit, it does seem quite bizarre how much assistance they have had from the establishment, for a couple of doctors from the East Midlands. Audiences with the pope, numerous meetings with the prime minister, ferried around in Phillip Greens's private jet, represented by a very elite barrister with ties to government, continuous high profile media coverage and furnished with millions of pounds..... Just saying....... Nothing necessarily sinister in this. The McCanns were very good at keeping the case in the media spotlight. The public rallied behind them and so politicians and others thought that it would be good to be seen to be on board and doing something about it. Not as interesting as a conspiracy theory but a lot more likely.

It's a parallel universe here.

Just looks so much like one of these conspiracy theories again to me. If they were involved in the death of their child, they are a) bloody good actors, b) extremely clever because that level of deceit would be extremely difficult to get away with. I think that people who are not in full possession of the facts - and clearly nobody is - should be extremely careful when branding this couple as some kind of latter day Brady and Hindley. Think how bad that would be if you were genuinely grieving for a lost daughter.

This is all a bit much. What is the motive? Why have they banged on about keeping the investigation alive ever since? Were they maybe advised by lawyers not to answer questions in a foreign country? If there was the kind of evidence you suggest they would have been banged up long ago.

It has been led by those who fight their way to the top - one way or another - and that takes a good deal of aggression.

Well this is obviously where humanity has been going wrong all these years. Thank goodness for you.

Good stuff China. You might not exactly be preaching to the converted on here but it is fascinating. I wonder what percentage of the population of the western world ever looks up through the street lights and marvels at the splendour out there.

To be controversial, I think Robin Gibb ruined Ellan Vannin. Love the Bee Gees but didn't like that version.

Great thread idea by the way!!

For the record, I don't think Allan Bell ever said it was "high risk". He said something along the lines of "like all investments, it is a risk".

£1.50 is about the price for a decent loaf in the UK also. It is only distorted by the heavy discounting of the multiples who use it as a loss leader so they can get you in the store to screw you over on other stuff. Anyone see Panorama about all their wonderful discounts the other night?

Can't afford proper adverts though.

Yes, but the thread would have been a lot shorter and less thought provoking. The fact that it has been kept up high for a while by us all putting in our two penn'orth might lead to him getting the useful answer he wanted. Clever way of framing the question I say.

At the bottom of that page it says: Spelling help The most usual plural of roof is roofs, although rooves is sometimes used. Quite. In the same way that the most usual form nowadays is the Americanised "I met with them" or "I will meet with them" which doesn't alter the fact that the "with" shouldn't be there. Just usage. Things change and established rules are forgotten. A noun ending in a single f just looks wrong with an s after it in British English.

Not too long ago Wiki told us that Foxdale was a major seaport and naval base. Rooves it is. Roofs looks retarded. Or even American.

Yes. Maximum trust. I cannot understand the thinking behind their ad on MR. They make much of the fact that if you take your gold in there, they will give you 150% of the price to spend in the shop. This doesn't work on several levels firstly because I imagine that anyone selling their gold wants the dosh rather than to buy more jewellery. Also if they can give 150% of the value, that tells me that either their buying price is low or their mark up on goods is high. Nice work if you can get it but would you shout about it on a radio ad?

Absolutely correct. She did not benefit in any way and was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. So what of the recipients? The expensive barristers? Apparently, as reported in the Manx press they opined that "it would probably be OK" to borrow the money from the trust. I bet they did since they were about to trouser it! Should they have to return this stolen money at least or perhaps be facing a charge of receiving stolen property? I believe that Miss Holt is justified in counting herself very hard done by, not ony in being dragged through the courts in disgrace but in the loss of her career.

Barrie, Could you come and explain all of this expanding universe/relativity stuff for us please?

"Banks taking control of entitys in 'debt for equity' swaps have happened a lot over the last few years, and will continue to do so. I've also founds 2 high profile cases of MacQuarie Bank investments where they have been highly geared, like SPCO, and then missed loan repayments, and then have been taken over my their creditors - Macquarie would appear to be in trouble!: Might this already be happening? Wasn't the debt due for refinancing at the end of October? Sure I remember reading that somewhere and I have not read that it has been achieved.