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I'm no medical expert but I would imagine that Noble's has never been so slack..apart from the lockdown period when next to fuck all was being done except sitting around waiting for something to happen, which it didn't.

Im a teetotal Atheist so Christmas means fuck all to me...but I do like the time off work

Basically the vast majority of MHKs are a bunch of ill informed cunts then.

I won't have the vaccine unless it's mandatory for travel. I would imagine that the uptake of those desperate for it and those who would begrudgingly have would be easily enough to achieve herd immunity thus allowing those who definitely don't want it to choose not to have it without having a detrimental affect on those whom have had the vaccine.

Did somebody mention Placebo?

Very true, that's why I listed other forms of excercise.

Oh dear, so excercising in the garden or in the house for fourteen days is impossible then...have you not heard of lifting bags of sugar, running on the spot, rowing machines, running up and down the stairs etc etc

It's the compliance I'm.concerned about, the ones caught out and jailed thus far have presented themselves on a plate to the authorities. We, as an island do not have the intelligence or resources or system for that matter to ensure every single person is being compliant when they should be. I genuinely hope tbere are no infections out there that woukd cause even the slightest backwards step, I really do, I quite like the way things are albeit although I'm desperate to going on holiday.

100% agree with you on all points...I think Orwell's 1984 is probably about 50 years out lol

Welll, you're certainly entitled to your opnion. I maintain that we, the Isle of Man, are doing the right thing..on the surface but there are so many loopholes with regard to key workers from the UK and beyond being exploited as well as the machiavellian manner in which the testing, results and infections are being portrayed, for example; this whole 'no cases in the community' bollocks. At present we, as an island have been lucky (if you assume that all infected people are coming forward and reporting it...which I very much doubt), once all returning people get to the Island ahead of Christmas there will be more and more infections in the community.

The funny thing is that people actually think thst Quayle et al are making the decisions...they're not, it's Will Greenhow amd his team of CEOs, Quayle et al are merely the mouthpieces.

I was wrong...my gut feeling let me down

As I said...a partial lockdown plus restrictions and Covid procedures

We shall see

I predict that there'll be a partial lockdown announced tomorrow...Covid ptocedures in place just as they were when we began to come out of the first lockdown, all sports not going ahead and quite possibly non-essential shops/businesses closing.

Not necessarily, things would have moved on msssively by the end of winter, if the virus isn't contained globally or an effective vaccine/s rolled out categorically then there will be measures in place to quickly identify it and isloate the person so that as near as is possible we live as much of a semblence of what we collectively accept as life.

Good for you sport...you're w..right and I'm not lol

What is bullshit is the fact that they keep trotting out the "There are no Covid19 cases in the community" to maintain the Covid free status and ooh look at us aren't we ace...when there clearly fucking well is!!

You'll be waiting quite a while then because Christmas is more than 5 weeks away!

Touché Doctor....well, sort of, of the millions who have caught/had the virus not that many, in comparison, have died or had a severe reaction...I'll leave that right there.

It's such a deadly virus you need to be tested to see if you have it...lol

What...the...actual...f@$k is this, we're all taxpayers, the person or people should be held accountable, if it's a 'one off' mistake then we all make mistakes, however, it it's down to constant incomptence, corruption and lack of management or all of the above then that needs, and must, be exposed so as to ensure no repeats in the future.

God...Be'elzeebub...aliens...humans...who knows?

Not necessarily, in public service it's extremely complex in certain arenas. You have many different aspects coming at you, or that you need to deal with, the public, businesses, politicians, colleagues, economies of scale, resources, managing expectations etc etc and you have to be as accomodating and as pragmatic as you can to do the best you can... it most certainly isn't merely black or white...and to be honest the system in place can often work against you despite your best efforts.

I know Jeff personally and I have to say that your 'credible source' couldn't be more wrong. Jeff is a good person and is extremely good at what he does.