Hong Kong Pro-Democracy Demonstrations

[Chinahand]

1 hour ago, the stinking enigma said:

The west, as I put it, care no more for the freedoms of Hong Kong, or the Chinese, than they did the Iraqis, the Afghanis, the Libyans or anywhere else. 

Ah, as ever you've shifted your position Slinky - not caring about quarrels in a far away country between people of whom we know nothing is a common human condition, though one which will often come back to bite us*, but that is a bit different from desiring violence.

The art of war is to not to have to wage war.  The strategy is to transform those who would do violence to work for mutual benefit.

The CPC is violent - it grows its power from the barrel of a gun and it will crush you for reading a Koran or protesting about being groped on a bus.  It would be better if people cared a bit more about these things.  They are important. 

Things are destroyed when they are lost - that is what is happening in Hong Kong today.  

Try listening to this episode of the Little Red Podcast - something which would get Alan likely jailed if he did it in Guangzhou.

If you've not got the 45 minutes it will take - and it is an incredible listen with the panel and crowd engaged with hope and anger singing their protest - at least listen to Clive Hamilton and his talk starting at 22 minutes.

He speaks truth to power - something I would have thought you were in favour of Slinky.

 

*see the Sudetenland, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan etc.

[the stinking enigma]

1 hour ago, Chinahand said:

Ah, as ever you've shifted your position Slinky 

I'm not sure I have. This time or any other. I will though, give that link a listen maybe later on this evening china.

[Chinahand]

I'm sort of reading Machiavelli's the Prince and came across this:

He who becomes master of a city accustomed to freedom and does not destroy it, may expect to be destroyed by it, for in rebellion it has always the watchword of liberty and its ancient privileges as a rallying point, which neither time nor benefits will ever cause it to forget. And what ever you may do or provide against, they never forget that name or their privileges less they are disunited or dispersed, but at every chance they immediately to be rally to them, as Pisa after the hundred years she had been held in bondage by the Florentines. 

He knew a thing or two about power did Machiavelli; and Xi Jinping is without a doubt a modern day Prince, able to disunite, disperse and destroy cities and cultures ... just ask a Tibetan or a Uyghur.