homarus Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 I love the way they state "" The public right of way has been impassible since 2004 "" ! Of course it has! Because the very people(Public servants) who are in charge of the maintenance closed the walkway rendering it almost impossible to access and thus abdicating their responsibiities to Manx public and tourist alike ! You couldn't make this shit up ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 It's not true - despite the sign(s) myself and others have walked along there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeky boy Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I went through the planning application, public submissions etc. today A condition of planning is that the right of way across the sea frontage be maintained Looking at the location of the gates, just ahead of the steps to the beach and the fact that only that end house is gated, the only possible reason for that is to block off the right of way If you were going to gate the development the gate would be at the other end, but that would allow people to walk across the beach and up the steps We all know what will happen once the gates are up, the pedestrian gate will remain locked and there will be some excuse about not being able to locate the key I propose a concerted effort to do away with the gates all together 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwell Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Has permission actually been granted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 24 minutes ago, cheeky boy said: I went through the planning application, public submissions etc. today A condition of planning is that the right of way across the sea frontage be maintained Looking at the location of the gates, just ahead of the steps to the beach and the fact that only that end house is gated, the only possible reason for that is to block off the right of way If you were going to gate the development the gate would be at the other end, but that would allow people to walk across the beach and up the steps We all know what will happen once the gates are up, the pedestrian gate will remain locked and there will be some excuse about not being able to locate the key I propose a concerted effort to do away with the gates all together Have you got the application number handy? I'd like to look through the application. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 if somebody they like ( nobody called clarkson then ! ) has a lot of money to spend and wants to make a nice place for themselves the state will tell the peasants to fuck . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeky boy Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 On 11/08/2017 at 2:52 PM, mojomonkey said: Have you got the application number handy? I'd like to look through the application. I went through the file in the planning office, I don't have copies or numbers for it. Planning has been granted though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesultanofsheight Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 On 8/11/2017 at 2:27 PM, cheeky boy said: We all know what will happen once the gates are up, the pedestrian gate will remain locked and there will be some excuse about not being able to locate the key I propose a concerted effort to do away with the gates all together A knackered old 4 x 4 could have then down in 2 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homarus Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 The Landowner is only trying to further his own interests as you'd expect. It's the colluding with him of ""Public servants"" in removing what appears to be established PROW that bothers me ,at the very least they should be named and made to explain how it's in the public interest for them to remove them . Time for some digging I think !! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homarus Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 (edited) As promised had a little look and some very interesting facts jumped out at me , the main one being that maintenance and upkeep of the viaduct walkway and all ""Public rights of way around Port Soderick became the responsibility of Dept of Transport (Now the D.O.I ) in 1985 due to a series of"" legal "" agreements with the then current owners . The Department agreed at all times to keep the walkways and viaduct in good order , tasks in which they have clearly been negliigent and failed ,leading to the deterioration of the Viaduct and all PROW Point being agents of the now D.O.I. so called ""Public servants"" have clearly failed the interests of the Public of the Isle of Man both present and future,whether through incompetence or other reasons is the question ? There also seems to have been a possible over hasty demolition of the viaduct walkway seeing as the final date for submissions opposing the plan to close the Walkways was 17th July and the demolition of the walkways took place on the 20th of July ! I've heard (Not sure) that it requires an act of Tynwald to strip PROW status and there is no way that that has been given in the space of 3 days as far as I can see. On a positive note it does hearten me to see that there are good people still on this Island (Looking at the submissions) that still care about the need for public access to places of beauty ,for our and future generations even if it does seem as in time honoured ""Public service "" fashion that they and their submissions have been totally ignored. H. Edited August 17, 2017 by homarus 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homarus Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 (edited) Please note that all information supplied is in the public domain and the file access number is contained on the stick on note at the foot of the page of the letter from concerned members of the public. Edited August 17, 2017 by homarus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Restrictions and obstacles in Planning matters were "eased" (very public announcement) for the fortunate few a good couple of years ago in a bid to encourage the wealthy and or developers to, er, develop the island. Perhaps that included the striking out of PROWs affected. Which also conveniently unloads the responsibility of their upkeep from our hard-pressed DOI? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homarus Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Well that's enough from me on this one I think ! Deeply disappointed in the lack of interest shown in this topic though. Can't believe people being paid out of the public purse have for more than 20 yrs consistently failed in their legally contracted duties to uphold public access to one of the most picturesque walks on the Island and have seemingly gone against process and smoothed the way for a developer who has a record of obstructing access to PROW's in that area . Fucking overpaid imbeciles,who as the old saying goes "Know the price of everything ,but the value of nothing""! Especially when you consider that we have multiple other agencies from the same government promoting the Island as a walkers paradise. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Colombe Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 8 minutes ago, homarus said: government promoting the Island as a walkers paradise. I think you might have misread that. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homarus Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 I think for once you may be right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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